Comment by sscaryterry

4 days ago

This. So many assumptions. If you disclose you used an LLM, it is immediately assumed all of it is done by an LLM.

If there is a bug, its because you are a lazy piece of shit, not because humans make mistakes, and you missed it. It is branded slop.

We're living in interesting times, socially, OSS will die because of this.

Contributors are dwindling, and will continue to do so. If you want to play in your sandbox, please do. Don't open-source, keep it to yourself.

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gspr  4 days ago

I think you're wrong. And I think that FOSS is our last best hope to keep software under the control of the individual.

The sloppers are diving head-first into a world where not knowing how a basic idea translates to code is embraced. This is not true of every slopper, but it is true of enough that sloppers are a threat.

  • sscaryterry  4 days ago

    I hear you, but again there are a lot of assumptions in this statement: "sloppers are diving head-first into a world where not knowing".

    The problem is you've redefined LLM-coding as slopping. "This is not true of every slopper".

    • lsaferite  4 days ago

      I find your comment here interesting. The parent never called out LLM-coding, they said "sloppers". If we take that choice of word as deliberate, it stands to reason there's a distinction there between "sloppers" and LLM assisted coding in general. You quoting "This is not true of every slopper" as proof they are equating the two seems like a weakly defended assertion. It's entirely possible there are 3 broad classes of LLM users in the parent's explicit and implicit beliefs. The thing is, you don't know any more than I know. You are attributing a held belief to someone that you inferred from incomplete information. That being said, if you based your assertion on external, unreferenced knowledge, then you could potentially know they hold that belief.

      I'd venture to say that a large number of developers are using LLM tooling at this point. Not all of those developers are out there generating massive, poorly engineered PRs and wasting project maintainer time. For me there are at least those 3 broad categories of user of LLMs for software development, maybe more if I sat and thought about it for a while.

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