Comment by Gigachad

21 hours ago

The first link is a propaganda website so not really much use, and for the second one, pretty much all fatalities on bikes are the result of being killed by distracted drivers.

>The US has eight times as many pedestrian deaths per mile as Germany.

Clearly the US is unusually bad for distracted driving.

I think the average size of US vehicles has something to do with it. Being hit by a distracted driver in a Fiat Cinquecento is probably way more survivable than being hit by an F250 Super Duty twatwagon.

The stats come from the government agency in the US which tracks driver fatalities.

Here's the source document: https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/...

Regarding "distracted driving" causing cyclist fatalities, my point was more that bicyclists have a higher risk rate. If we're already going down this path for safety, banning bicycling would have a higher impact than reducing fatalities ~10% which is what the EU claimed it could prevent.

Regarding the claim that "pretty much all fatalities on bikes are the result of being killed by drivers", that's simply not true. It also largely depends on laws and location.

https://www.bikeattorney.com/bike-accident-common-causes.htm...

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2011/05/20/1364622...

  • I would argue that any U.S. government data is pro-car propaganda.

    For exemple, pedestrian killed by motorist are too often not counted as a motorist issue, but a pedestrian at the wrong place issue.