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Comment by PowerElectronix

7 hours ago

Tough week for euros. Cars that record your face while driving and now apps snooping on communications.

Perhaps in the future cars will not only record your face but also listen in for hate speech. Most cars have SOS and GPS modules so calling the police if someone in the car shouts a slur is just connecting some code together.

  • Why do you think this is only going to be in Europe? This will be the global norm modulo some astroid hitting earth or civilizational crash.

    The trajectory is crystal clear: access to information (AI), control over personal finance (CBDC), privacy of personal communications (handful of big tech MITM in everything), metered social interactions (today China, tomorrow the world over).

    • Until the sun grows in a final blaze of glory and burns all Qurans at the same time for 100 million years?

    • Fortunately the US has not only freedom of speech in the constitution but also tens of millions of armed civilians that place a hard limit on how much control the government can have over people's speech. The only reason the Chinese government can achieve such control over speech is because it can disappear anyone who speaks against it.

      It doesn't even need guns; Nepalese youth managed to stop social media censorship there just by going to the political capital and threatening to beat the MPs to death.

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  • I think this should go one step further. If you don't praise the magnificence of your local EU politicians then your car's breaks will stop working and an electric shot will be administered to everyone presently in the car. That will satisfy EU-rocrats.

    The coming revolution will be well deserved I think.

    • Man, the paranoid ramblings every time the EU gets mentioned here really are something else...

  • The car’s computer voice: John Spartan you are fined one credit for a violation of the verbal morality code!

  • Well, it is some kind of social control. People who conform, have more rights than those who reject fascism.

Didn't Biden's big infrastructure bill already mandate that NHTSA develop regulations to require driver monitoring sensors starting next year? Or was that provision cut or reverted?

Cars sold for the past years already record and transmit all your movements and telemetry, I'm sad to say.

Maybe they should pause on being such snobs towards American politics to take a long hard look at themselves.

Honestly, it is mostly a reaction to how society has evolved, for the worse. Rock and hard place.

The worst thing I have to hide is knowledge about my intentions, none of which are bad/illegal/immoral.

Scan away, I'd rather try to protect my children, other children from unscrupulous characters.

  • > The worst thing I have to hide is knowledge about my intentions, none of which are bad/illegal/immoral.

    Correction: None of which are bad/illegal/immoral _right now_. The "I have nothing to hide" crowd will surely change their tune the moment any of their data starts to be used against them.

    • That would have to happen, and by then it's too late. The best historical example is, not to Godwin the thread, but Dutch Jews who registered with the government and then when the Nazi's took over, that information was used against them. Political expression online is relatively safe under the current regime, but who knows if a future regime will also feel that way. If you posted something online about immigrants or criticizing a politician that became illegal to express, where would you be? Seems far-fetched, but in the history of the world, it isn't. People would rather not get persecuted for saying something they said 30 or more years ago because a lot can change in that kind of time. What once was acceptable becomes not in the different light of decades later. I'm sure if you go back to the very first comments I've made here, you'll find something embarrassing, though maybe not illegal. (An ernest plea that information wants to be free, probably.)

      Communication wasn't digitally indexed and recorded forever, historically, and something intimate I whisper to a lover or very close friends doesn't ever need to see the light of day.

      The guise that there's a predator out there, trying to cocerce 13 year old children to have sex with them is a good cover by the government to gain this control, because how do we refuse that? Won't somebody think of the children? So we have to acknowledge that yes, there are bad people out there, and no, I don't support Prince Andrew or the Epstein class, but at the same time, in the history of government and abuses of power, Chat control is going to be used against you and I, and not the Epstein class.