Comment by afry1

2 days ago

Most of them don't get access. So let's hook them up to an insane, unproven, unpredictable autocomplete math equation and entrust it to their development as a human being.

So gross.

Heaven forbid we let poor people use software that helps their kids read.

If they can't afford a tutor, they deserve nothing.

(Am I doing this right?)

  • Your reaction is based on 3 unproven assertions:

    * An AI tutor is a net positive in learning for the subject matter it covers.

    * An AI tutor does not cause other harms.

    * An AI tutor is going to be cheap enough that someone who cannot afford a human tutor will still be able to afford an AI tutor.

    I'm mostly willing to give the benefit of the doubt on the first point, but the third point seems unlikely, and history has given us no shortage of reasons to distrust tech companies on the second point, even if we assume this company can be trusted now.

    • The second one feels like a subset of the first. If it’s net positive, the other harms are worth it.

      And I don’t think you’re really engaging with what they said, which is that it might be better than nothing, which is what is realistically available to many kids. Do you really think something like this is worse than nothing?

    • Your reaction is based on 3 unproven assertions:

      * An AI tutor is a net negative in learning for the subject matter it covers.

      * An AI tutor does cause other harms.

      * An AI tutor is going to be more expensive that someone who cannot afford a human tutor will still be able to afford an AI tutor.

      Seriously, my first reaction to reading this headline was a knee jerk "are you insane", but this whole thread is just people arguing out of their arse while claiming authority. As of today, it was never attempted. It is also possible that the kids gain an advantage by learning to use llms to teach themselves things, which would be positive for their future.

      I don't think it's going to happen, but that's just my opinion based on essentially prejudice, not a fact

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  • Won't somebody think of the poor people's kids?!

    Seriously though, it's great they're going to donate all this compute & tokens to the poor (who by definition can't afford to pay for it).

  • We could encourage parents to take an active role in tutoring their kids but I guess that's just entirely out of the question?

    Nah. Let's have AI do it

    • Yeah tell them to change things.. why didn't we think of that? Provide opportunities to make parenting less stressful like here so that they can involve more.. this reflexive anti AI luddite attitude isn't productive as it's just less signal and more noise..

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> insane, unproven, unpredictable autocomplete math equation

It won IMO, solved Erdos problems. At what point will you stop saying that?

  • Probably when it stops agreeing with me when I tell it that industrial quantities of garlic salt are an acceptable substitution for coco powder in a chocolate mousse recipe...

    • Which model are you using? I don't think any recent state-of-the-art model does this.

    • This sounds like people who used to complain that they saw a website with bad info so obviously the internet should be avoided.

    • Why are you telling it that? No one is arguing LLMs are perfect but at this point dismissing them as stochastic parrots seems a bit silly

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