Comment by oatmeal1

2 days ago

We pulled out of the JCPOA. It worked but we quit.

Iran routinely denied inspectors access to facilities. American intelligence isn’t 100% accurate. And why should we have to effectively pay off Iran or have some special deal where they hold the world hostage less they build a nuclear bomb? Why do we only have to do that with Iran but not other countries?

I’m all for diplomatic solutions to problems, but Iran was building nuclear weapons under our nose anyway and loading up on missiles and drones to make it difficult to impossible for the US to do anything about them without severe regional casualties. Nevermind Iran’s continued funding of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Houthis and their support for Russia in its war against Ukraine.

  • > why should we have to effectively pay off Iran or have some special deal where they hold the world hostage less they build a nuclear bomb?

    This is a narrative you constructed. The reality is simpler:

    - All countries have equal rights.

    - The usa and israel want iran to give up their rights to a nuclear program, which is equal to the usa's and israel's right to a nuclear program.

    - If you want someone to give you something, you generally have to give them something on which they place equal or greater value.

    > Iran was building nuclear weapons under our nose anyway and loading up on missiles and drones

    So was+is the usa and israel.

    > Nevermind Iran’s continued funding of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Houthis

    The usa continues funding israel and supporting their war on Lebanon, Palestine, and Iran.

    • > - All countries have equal rights.

      It’s even more simple. All countries don’t have equal rights. The strong make the rules and the weak suffer what they must. That’s how the world actually functions.

      But if you want to argue that countries have equal rights, well, in order to have equal rights one must have some rule, or law, or some other mechanism in which to receive and agree upon such rights or a forum to argue that such rights have been violated requiring some sort of justice. Otherwise these aren’t really rights, just claims.

      The closest thing we have to an entity that defines and adjudicates relations with respect to countries and rights is the United Nations.

      What does the United Nations say about nuclear weapon proliferation?

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