Comment by spicymaki

2 months ago

I am genuinely fascinated by this.

I don’t like piling on especially with security vulnerabilities, but man how many red flags do you need to ignore?

They won’t stop abusing us until we stop using their products.

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CamperBob2  2 months ago

I think my first clue was when their CEO hired a bunch of teenage hackers to sack the government and exfiltrate all our data.

I didn't really need a second clue.

  • DaiPlusPlus  2 months ago

    My first clue was when he libelled the diver during the Thailand thing in 2018; it was all downhill from there.

    ...it was quite the sting because I bought a Tesla car only 2 weeks prior to that.

  • bckr  2 months ago

    Most people don’t know about that because they live in an information bubble handcrafted by the oligarchs.

zelphirkalt  2 months ago

Lazy or incapable people will do almost anything once it is normalized behavior, which vibe coding has become, to avoid having to do actual work. Even if there were cryptominers running, eating up 80% of their cores and stealing electricity, they would still let it happen. It's not their money or hardware being spent.

MisterTea  2 months ago

> They won’t stop abusing us until we stop using their products.

I don't use AI at all in my daily life.

Work however will demand you use it.

AI is not here to help people.

  • flexagoon  2 months ago

    Not gonna argue about the utility of AI, but isn't the statement "AI is not here to help people" completely meaningless? AI itself is not "here" for anything; the problem is big tech doing big tech shit as always, not the current technology they're doing it with.

    • coldtea  2 months ago

      Doesn't matter. Big tech is not changing anytime soon. So if we see AI, we shouldn't see as some random tool, but as something in their hands.

    • Timon3  2 months ago

      Isn't this objection itself completely meaningless? I'll assume GP wasn't referring to AI having conscious thoughts and deciding to "be here" for a specific purpose, but as technology introduced to achieve an effect.

      For example: seat belts are here to help people (by reducing the severity of injuries & the likelihood of fatalities).

  • ChrisMarshallNY  2 months ago

    > AI is not here to help people.

    True, but it isn't here to not help people, either.

    It's a spanner. Who wields the spanner, makes all the difference.

    We've spent the last couple of decades, cultivating a huge crop of ultimate scumbag billionaires, with comically exaggerated sociopathy, and that has filtered down to almost every level of society. They are treated as gods, these days (they certainly think of themselves that way).

    It still shocks me (but really shouldn't), on a daily basis, to encounter regular folks, interacting in stores and restaurants, or driving on roads, that mirror the values systems exemplified by our billionaires. Our politicians act that way, and one of their biggest selling points, is normalizing sociopathy (not just the US, either).

    • Groxx  2 months ago

      It's a spanner where every quarter turn costs noticeable money. Which directly funds behavior like this.

      The tool analogy is intentionally minimizing, and doesn't capture just how different rented tools with constant surveillance are.

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    • zelphirkalt  2 months ago

      Exactly. I couldn't have said it better. I hope I will still live to see the pitchforks coming out and taking all of this crap down, but I fear it might be longer than a lifetime, before we rid ourselves of these parasites.