Comment by MisterTea

3 days ago

> They won’t stop abusing us until we stop using their products.

I don't use AI at all in my daily life.

Work however will demand you use it.

AI is not here to help people.

Not gonna argue about the utility of AI, but isn't the statement "AI is not here to help people" completely meaningless? AI itself is not "here" for anything; the problem is big tech doing big tech shit as always, not the current technology they're doing it with.

  • Isn't this objection itself completely meaningless? I'll assume GP wasn't referring to AI having conscious thoughts and deciding to "be here" for a specific purpose, but as technology introduced to achieve an effect.

    For example: seat belts are here to help people (by reducing the severity of injuries & the likelihood of fatalities).

  • Doesn't matter. Big tech is not changing anytime soon. So if we see AI, we shouldn't see as some random tool, but as something in their hands.

Nothing about this has anything to do with AI. It has to do with Musk's ethical and engineering standards, or the lack thereof.

> AI is not here to help people.

True, but it isn't here to not help people, either.

It's a spanner. Who wields the spanner, makes all the difference.

We've spent the last couple of decades, cultivating a huge crop of ultimate scumbag billionaires, with comically exaggerated sociopathy, and that has filtered down to almost every level of society. They are treated as gods, these days (they certainly think of themselves that way).

It still shocks me (but really shouldn't), on a daily basis, to encounter regular folks, interacting in stores and restaurants, or driving on roads, that mirror the values systems exemplified by our billionaires. Our politicians act that way, and one of their biggest selling points, is normalizing sociopathy (not just the US, either).

  • It's a spanner where every quarter turn costs noticeable money. Which directly funds behavior like this.

    The tool analogy is intentionally minimizing, and doesn't capture just how different rented tools with constant surveillance are.

  • Exactly. I couldn't have said it better. I hope I will still live to see the pitchforks coming out and taking all of this crap down, but I fear it might be longer than a lifetime, before we rid ourselves of these parasites.

  • Wasn't ai introduced so replace people? It's not the spanner, it's the car and we're the horses

    • Nah. It was introduced to push tech, but if you're a billionaire, then it was introduced to make you richer. They don't especially care, whether or not that involves replacing people.

      Replacing people is what C-suiters think of it (and many of them aren't billionaires).