Comment by enraged_camel

3 hours ago

>> I pretty sure OpenAI and Anthropic are doing the same or worse.

So in your opinion, they are training on your data even if you toggle the "don't train on my data" checkbox off?

That's a bold assertion.

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eckelhesten  3 hours ago

Not the guy you responded to, but I would assume ”they keep it safe” somewhere in a cold storage. Just in case they decide to train on it in a later phase.

Think of it as the Big Data hype some years ago.

  • scottyah  2 hours ago

    I don't think they'd really be willing to risk the whole company on a small subset of prompts. It's not "keeping it safe", it's retaining proof of illegal activities.

jvuygbbkuurx  3 hours ago

Yes, their entire existence relies on training on copyrighted content without permission being ok.

  • demosthanos  2 hours ago

    You truly see no difference between having a perhaps-overly-generous definition of fair use and flagrantly breaking contracts that you signed with your customers?

inigyou  3 hours ago

Why wouldn't they?

  • gpm  3 hours ago

    Because the legal system does, in fact, have teeth. And those teeth actually deploy pretty readily. Especially when the people whose trade secrets you would be violating are gargantuan companies with enough resources that the cost of a lawsuit is a rounding error.

    • LinXitoW  36 minutes ago

      Obviously don't know for sure, but I can very easily seeing a combination of "move fast and break things", "it's easier to ask for forgiveness", "too big to fail", "I know tech, so I know everything", "AI is gonna change the world so fucking much, it doesn't matter what happens now", and finally "I cannot fail! I must make it work!" making especially con artist Sam just straight not care.

    • unknownfuture  12 minutes ago

      Does it? Because these companies systematically broke copyright law by illegally downloading terabytes of copyrighted content and there's been no consequences.

      Past behaviour informs future trust and I wouldn't trust these companies whatsoever.

  • ghshephard  3 hours ago

    Because the value obtained from doing so is unlikely to exceed the cost of the lawsuits if they were ever caught doing so.