Comment by sashank_1509
17 hours ago
This is all a depressing and bleak future that I don’t look forward to.
One solution is to ban LLM’s, to artificially create a demand for human thought, that just feels like living in an artificially constructed zoo.
Another solution is humans don’t do anything that AI can do better , / doesn’t need the human touch. So I suppose we will all become artists, sportsmen or politicians, the only jobs that will remain except for select few. Maybe this is ok, I don’t know.
Another solution is we find a way to mind-meld with AI so that human + Ai >> AI alone. This is dystopian, who gets to decide who mind melds with AI, how much will it cost etc etc.
For the stupid copes that the prompt required human ingenuity, let me first add that the author used GPT5.6 to write most of the prompt. He just gave some mild direction. That amount of direction does not require deep expertise and the expertise required will keep falling with time, eventually an undergrad can create this loop and then maybe a high school student.
And prompt engineering / loop engineering nonsense is not real. Calling it engineering is a psy-op because it is something simple, imprecise and future models will be much better at it than you.
In fact, in the future the most likely outcome is you tell the agent what you want (I want this app, or I want this theorem solved) and it will set up the loop, or loop of loops and use all its computing effort to come up with a result. This is completely dystopian to a human life.
call me naive, but i really think the pursuit for the new, the better, the interesting, is boundless and humans will never stop. and so for those of us that dream and push and are plain curious will never run out of ways to be useful. and hopefully the fruits of all this tech will be ample enough to support the ones that don't want to or can't participate in that way.
If AI is better at being (or simulating; I think the distinction is irrelevant in this context) curious, better at examining that curiosity, better at pursuing it to discovery, better at applying the discoveries, better at sharing the discoveries, and able to push the frontier of knowledge (if that’s even the right word) literally beyond human comprehension in every domain, what usefulness exactly is left? Or are you just implicitly saying you don’t believe AI will ever get all that superhuman?
We already drown in useful new things and especially knowledge. There's a limit to how fast we can adopt them.
It genuinely scares me that some people's first reaction to this news is banning LLM.
Maybe we should also burn books and lobotomize ourselves to make science more fun and challenging. The ego here sickens me. I don't care about your ego. I want accelerated material science, medical science, energy, better outcomes for people across the world.
I also want better outcomes for people around the world.
Memes like the permanent underclass and the massive incentive of replacing workers across the world does not bode well for a better outcome for people across the world.
> I want accelerated material science, medical science, energy, better outcomes for people across the world.
There will be people benefiting from advances in these fields.
Neither you nor I will be one of them.
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wasn't that always the reaction historically whenever people felt like their livelihood was threatened by new technology?
A rational reaction would be to identify the political coalition that would act in this manner and place yourself in opposition to it if you do not see yourself being able to change it.
I wonder which one that is.
Why? No one will be able to effectively ban AI. Pandora's box is open, and we can only witness the consequences.
Why is this depressing and bleak? No one is stopping you from doing math if that's what you want to do.
Should I ban table saws because they make people too good at woodworking? Should we ban right-angles?
This line of thought doesn't lead anywhere fruitful.
just ignore these people
gig economy is a blessing to keep the LCD busy and doing something productive instead of being nihilistic losers
it’s better to focus on how to keep these “knowledge” workers busy for the AI age
they don’t like to work and complain even on a w2 job (where someone else had to figure out how to capitalize them) so in many ways they’re far more dangerous and hopeless.
Don’t be so nasty about w2 workers. Incredibly unbecoming.
Also see comparative advantage re best roles for each actor in an economy
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> This is all a depressing and bleak future that I don’t look forward to.
Or, for the vast majority of humanity who aren't professional mathematicians, it's a liberating and empowering advancement.
I'm sorry if the automated digital theorem looms are eliminating the market for your handwoven proofs.
There is more to human life than programming and math proofs.
unfortunately many won't get to experience it much because we'll be stressed and struggling to make a living
The problem isn't that we are gaining more knowledge and better technology. The problem is that we are allowing the rich to use the technology to subjugate the majority.
If AI improves human productivity so much that millions of people no longer need to work that should be an incredible thing. But the flawed structure of our society punishes those people rather than freeing them to persue endeavors that interest then.
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This is already the case with most human activities, even reading a book for leisure is a luxury many can't afford.
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This is utopian friend!
Literally anything you wanted to make is no plausible to make if not now then in the next couple years.
The thing you’re worried about is capitalism and the connection with working to having the right to keep living. If you can throw off that mental shackle you can start to see how this can be amazing, but you have to drop the idea that everyone has to work at a job for someone else to provide some service in order to do it. It’s hard, I know, but change your mindset some and dream for a better world and we can make it.
You ever play a video game with god mode cheats enabled, so you can unlock all the unlocks, get all the best gear, and be an unstoppable force with unlimited money?
Yeah, it's fun for 30 minutes.
On the other hand, exploring any of your interests without needing to calculate how it can cover rent means you have more time and opportunities to actually do things you're interested in.
Working all day, then not wanting to do much else after because you're tired, is also fun for all of 30 minutes.
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Exactly, a lot of people keep attacking me as anxiety for losing my livelihood. It’s not that.
It’s just depression that another avenue for human craftsmanship has been taken over by the machines. Humans are not just infinite consumers. If AI solves all of humanity problems, it’s like living in a zoo, not a life worth living imo.
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I play the game for a manufactured challenge
People in the real world all having god mode cheats is good, actually
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If anything one wants to make is now possible to make, how is anyone supposed to make a living?
Can I make food with LLMs? Can I build a house and make clothes? This is stupid. No real wealth is being created for the general population here.
I literally have had various LLMs generate 3d printable plans for things I have used. Also, I am literally making a living right now being something between a dev and SME and building tools for people in an industry I’m familiar with.
Dream bigger buddy! We can make the world better, we’re not powerless here.
People like being needed and important to other people. That isn't some artifact of capitalism; it exists across all times and cultures.
Sure, but it is certainly magnified when you need to make money to justify your right to exist.
What a load of absolute nonsense.
I’m convinced many of you barely go outside and have the capacity for original thoughts.
Sloppity slop slop.