Comment by Aurornis

12 hours ago

With the obligatory disclaimer that I’m impressed with what open weight models can do, I have the same experience with all of them.

The benchmarks come out and say they’re as good as Opus from N months ago, then I use it for a complex task and it doesn’t work as well as Opus from N months ago did when on similar problems.

There’s a real wow factor when you get an open weights model to do amazing things, but in my experience the gap to the frontier models has always been bigger than the benchmarks would lead me to believe.

There can be a lot of value in having the cheaper open weight models for chewing through lower complexity tasks (non-programming in my primary use case) at a cheaper rate than OpenAI or other frontier API costs. Even with those I can measure bigger gaps to the frontier models than the benchmarks suggest.

If the benchmarks aren’t being directly gamed, there’s at least some selection happening where training data or model structures are being picked in ways to maximize public benchmark performance. All of the labs know there’s immense value in having good benchmarks to show for your model because most LLM consumers are picking based on lab provided benchmark charts, not running their own evals. Running your own evals is hard and expensive.