Comment by hosteur
7 days ago
> There's just no trust in a country that is digitally totalitarian and hostile towards its own people.
Are you referring to USA, China or EU here?
7 days ago
> There's just no trust in a country that is digitally totalitarian and hostile towards its own people.
Are you referring to USA, China or EU here?
What you personally believe and perception within the United States are not the same thing.
The US is most definitely hostile towards its own people, and we also have the most comprehensive surveillance apparatus in the world. On par with, if not more extensive than, China.
People largely can't protest here right now, and US citizens are being killed. People are being sent to work camps in countries where laws do not apply. And our leadership is, right now, priming the American people for when they reject the results of future elections. Not to mention everybody involved in the last attempted coup was pardoned - after we were told that our current leadership had nothing to do with the coup.
The state of the US is much more dire than most people are letting on. And it's understandable why. Nobody likes bad news, and we all like to believe things will be okay. All I know is I can't take my phone into the airport. I can't go out and protest without risking my life and freedom. I can't drive anywhere without my location being tracked and logged. And, if I get pulled over, I must comply with any order, no matter how unlawful, otherwise I risk being executed in the street.
Some of these things have been going on for a while, and some are new. But all are real.
>The state of the US is much more dire than most people are letting on.
This is unfalsifiable, so not a great claim. You can continue to claim this forever without having to prove it.
>All I know is I can't take my phone into the airport. I can't go out and protest without risking my life and freedom. I can't drive anywhere without my location being tracked and logged. And, if I get pulled over, I must comply with any order, no matter how unlawful, otherwise I risk being executed in the street.
Wild, wild exaggerations, but you will point to your unfalsifiable claim to justify them.
The VAST MAJORITY of people in the US who engage in the things that you claim that they cannot, do so, and with no consequence.
I am no fan of this administration, but I am even less a fan of outright exaggeration (which is even one of the defining hallmarks of Mr. Trump)
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hopefully all of the above?
at some point the conversation has to go past this reflexive "USA uses tech abusively -> but look at how abusive China is with tech -> ..." back-and-forth to acknowledging that neither party is your savior -- and then (hopefully) acting upon and coordinating around that understanding.