Comment by aboardRat4

1 day ago

>How is it TSA can accept a Veteran Health Identification Card or photo identification card issued by a federally recognized tribe, and the passports from every country in the world, but not a state-issued ID which is not REAL ID-compliant?

They can only accept them before IDs are implemented of course, as a poor substitute. After national id documents are standardised, it's just them, nothing else counts.

That still doesn't tell me what problem it is supposed to solve.

  • Isn't it nice to have a guaranteed way to prove that (1) you are you, that (2) you are a citizen, that (3) you are over 18, and that (4) you live where you live?

    Guaranteed in the sense that (a) it's available instantly, (b) everyone _has to_ accept it, because it's universal.

    So you don't have keep paid utility bills with your address, just show your ID card. You don't have to "register as a voter" ever again, just show your ID before getting a ballot.

    If you are worried that your tenant might happen to be an illegal migrant, and would risk being deported instead of paying rent next month, just make him show an ID before signing a rental agreement.

    • There is a tautological issue here - before Real ID everyone had to accept state-issued ids because that's what people had.

      How does Real ID guarantee (1), (3), or (4) better than the state-issued non-Real IDs?

      Places are not required to accept all Real IDs as proof of age. A bar, for example, may reject out-of-state ids for proof of age for those who look under 25.

      Real ID does not prove citizenship (2). Non-citizen residents may have Real ID.

      If a Canadian claims to be a snowbird tourist and wants to rent your guest house for five months, and you are worried that he might happen to be an illegal migrant and would risk being deported instead of paying rent next month, how does Real ID help?

      He has no Real ID, only Canadian ID.

      Note also that the Fair Housing Act prohibits discrimination based on national origin. Landlords must provide equal opportunities regardless of nationality or immigration status.

      Your proposed scenario seems like it breaks anti-discrimination law.

      Even better, if that person shows you a valid tribal id from a federally recognized tribe, but which is not Real ID compliant, will you rent to him? The feds consider it a valid alternative to Real ID.

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