Comment by buellerbueller
7 days ago
>The only reasonable thing to do is simply not bring your phone.
Actually, not bringing your phone is eminently unreasonable, particularly to an airport. Sure, you could wait in a line for a paper boarding pass, but if everyone were "reasonable" and did this, what do you think it would do to airport lines? What would happen when a flight gets canceled, and everyone rushes to the desks for help?
Buddy, birth has a 100% fatality rate. Life is risk.
If anyone knows that life has a 100% fatality rate, it would be me, with cancer. Trust me I know that.
It’s not an argument, it’s just not.
There is an amount of acceptable risk, you’re right. How do we calculate it? By making sure we follow due process, the law, and we hold parties accountable.
ICE is allowed to execute Americans. Yes, allowed. Because they’ve done it many times, and face 0 accountability. So they are allowed to do that.
Now use your knowledge about humans. When humans are allowed to do something, what happens? If we let people get away with murder, what is the end result? This isn’t rocket science buddy. Put on your thinking cap.
Ditto for the police. When the police make mistakes and violate your rights, they face zero consequences. Your average McDonald’s cashier faces more consequences if they forget your god damn ketchup. So the police are allowed to violate your rights, yes they are. So they do, obviously.
I’ll admit: this conversation is a little bit frustrating to me. Because this is not a deep analysis or conspiracy. It’s just very simple facts and then some very basic incentive analysis. It’s disheartening that there are Americans going around not putting any thought into the power structures of entities they interact with. It’s dangerous, too. People like you are the best target ICE and the police could ask for. They want people who lollygag and don’t care about their phone getting tracked, aren’t concerned about tear gas and rubber bullets, and who believe their rights won’t be violated.
I am sorry that you live in so much fear and anger. You have already been beaten.
There is no fear or anger. You've completely run out of arguments so you're resorting to plan B: make me out to be a crazy person. Because then, you're allowed to ignore crazy people.
Everything I am stating is fact. These things do happen, and when no accountability is taken, we call that "allowed to happen". They are allowed to happen, any reasonable person will agree.
You can be intellectually lazy and decide to plug your ears and go "lalala not listening!". That's fine, that's your choice. Just know that any reasonable person will look at that and realize you are not a critical thinker, and they will move on.