Comment by jagged-chisel

4 days ago

Fine. I'm checking the files as you say, focus changes while I'm still checking, now I have to switch back to finish checking. No. Do not want.

Also, no one else needs to be deciding how my "distractions need limiting" on my computer. I can handle that myself. Provide settings, an extension framework, whatever to allow people to manage their distractions, but don't force that on me and my device.

> while I'm still checking

No, you're committing the exact same error again. You stopped checking in the first 0.5 sec while the app took 1 sec to start. If you're not capable of imagining a situation where this happens like some other commenters, that's ok, but that's a different argument.

> I don't get it, are you not capable of imagining a situation where

You're the one deciding that!!! That's what a properly designed system would allow you to do. But the system you advocate for does NOT. If decides for you that you'll never need it. Just like the current dumb systems decide for you that you always need it

> Provide settings

So we agree again?

  • > You stopped checking in the first 0.5 sec

    Why do you presume to tell me how I perform a task? Do you know how many files I have to scan through to check? Do you know how far the Finder scroll has to move to show me what I want? Maybe it takes a glance. Maybe it takes ten seconds.

    I don't particularly care what kind of activity you might be imagining, but nothing that steals focus should be happening without my consent. You have been arguing that it should and then later changing your argument to allowing configuration for such things.

    > > I don't get it, are you not capable of imagining a situation where

    I don't know where this came from, but it's not in my comments. I think your emotional response to this discussion has you conflating commenters.

    If you want to advocate for configuration to allow focus stealing that's fine. But you've been arguing as if it's silly that anyone would want it any other way than you.

    • > Why do you presume to tell me how I perform a task?

      Why do you keep presuming you can make up your own example when arguing about a different one??? The original premise "depends entirely on what you're switching from and to and for what reason", so of course if you change your conditions you'll have different outcome re. focus stealing!

      > You have been arguing that it should

      No, you've been missing the point this whole time.

      > I don't know where this came from, but it's not in my comments

      It is, I suggested you imagine the case where you'd like the change of focus to happen in response to some conditions you find favorable, yet several times you faield to address it as is and kept bringing up different conditiosn.

      > I think your emotional response to this discussion has you conflating commenters.

      I think if you're that bad at reading literal text you shouldn't attempt at trying to read emotional state of that author.

      > If you want to advocate for configuration to allow focus stealing that's fine

      So why do you keep arguing that it's not fine because you can't imagine a situation where it is?

      > But you've been arguing as if it's silly that anyone would want it any other way than you.

      Nope, that's you misreading again. I have no issue with people who want a dumbed down "never steal" config.

      Maybe the silly part here is people ostensibly supporting computers respecting user choices arguing against being able to better configure your computer to respect user choices.

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