Comment by vl

4 days ago

Or another way to see it is that current models are AGI as it was defined before, and the goal post is being moved.

they are definitely not agi as it was ever defined. they’re only a bit more capable than they were a year ago. they crossed over from interesting crap to useful tool recently but really only for software

  • You have short memory if you think we've not blown past at least 5 different AGI goalposts. They're being moved every time and we're hitting them every time.

    Or maybe you just don't know exactly how capable these models are. Most people's experience of AI is a stupid chatbot, it's no wonder they don't understand how these things are coming for their jobs.

    On my end, I have a software that is designed and built by Claude, that I did a strategy session on (with claude), and prepared a fundraise for (with claude). My only role, other than "knowing what to aim for", has been to feed the AI some fairly basic english prompts for a few weeks... which is also easily automatable.

    Everyone's job is fucked. Devs, CEOs, everyone.

    • > Everyone's job is fucked. Devs, CEOs, everyone.

      It’s curious to me that there are two distinct factions here. People like parent commenter who has no discernment and others who see llms for what they are. I just talked to opus 5 and in it’s first response caught some well disguise BS. These things are bullshit machines. There are indeed a lot of bullshit jobs around so maybe parent does discern something I don’t?

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    • ...chartered accountants whose job is to deal with the 100s of pages of jargon for you. LLMs are the like smartphones. They do everything so you don't need your ipod, flashlight, alarm clock, game console, computer, that handheld clicking counter thing, map, camera anymore. Llms will do that to a lot of professions.

LLM labs dumbed down the definition of AGI as much as possible, yet their models haven't reached it still. We are nowhere near the original definition of AGI. Not even 1% of the way there.

  • Oh yeah? Who even talks about the Turing Test anymore? Half a decade ago,that was the informal benchmark.

    • Not at all.

      The Turing test was never about AGI, just about being able to discern a chatbot from a human in a casual conversation...

      I would also say that funnily enough it's extremely easy to detect if you're talking to a human or an LLM after a few messages.

    • in 2023 i wouldve said gpt could pass the turing test. today i could figure out it was an llm in a few turns no problem. llms cannot pass the turing test now that we’re accustomed to them

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