Comment by makaking

3 days ago

The arguably sketchy means used to get there —and the resulting side-effects— do not take away from the impressiveness of the emerging capabilities themselves.

I agree about the uncertainty regarding the value for humanity in the long-term. But that's not my point. Being jaw-dropped != being happy and cheering for it.

It's certainly a great thing that AI is improving (I use AI to write code daily myself), but I wouldn't be calling it impressive because it's essentially all about money and government backing.

At some point, the chickens are gonna come out.

  • I am still impressed by the fact we have found a way to feed data to matter and get human surpassing intelligence, that's a very unexpected advance

    • It’s not human surpassing intelligence though in my opinion. If we had the same constraints on that task then we would also come up with the idea of creating our own viewer and if, like the LLM, the knowledge to do so was embedded in our brain we would do it, it would just take longer because we can’t type as fast. So instead we would buy or compile a viewer since the problem is already solved.

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  • > At some point, the chickens are gonna come out.

    What does this mean ? AI will only get better and cheaper.

    > essentially all about money and government backing

    So is nuclear power, and once it came it didn't go away.

    • AI is cheap right now thanks to governments or VCs agreeing to lose money. I can use DeepSeek to code all day thanks to the CCP.

      Nuclear power benefits everyone. Who does AI benefit apart from a few vibe coders and a small amount of knowledge workers?

We have certainity it will be used to harm most people in the short term while pointificating about long term future. CEO class is very open with their vision and goals, none of them spell anything positive for us.

  • >We have certainity it will be used to harm most people in the short term

    How will it harm most people in the short term, exactly?

    • Taking jobs away, obviously.

      And the only reason no longer working is a bad thing is that nobody trusts our government to create a universal welfare system.

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    • The expression "becoming obsolete permanent underclass" CEO crave so much pretty much explains it.

      If they succeed in their stated goals, most will be permanently unemployed, with no political power and the government will be a.) fascist b.) feudal.

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  • Exactly. I'm a nerd too and we nerds can real hypocrites because we spend too much time alone. I will happily turn a blind eye to world suffering if it means I get to work less but get paid the same.

    AI CEOs aren't different. At some point we'll have to admit that we're sacrificing others for our own benefit.