Comment by microtonal

2 days ago

A replacement for SeedVault is planned:

https://grapheneos.org/features#encrypted-backups

https://github.com/GrapheneOS/os-issue-tracker/issues/4687#i...

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Voklen  2 days ago

> the project has been taken over by another group of people not sharing our goals or approach

> Seedvault which was originally written for use in GrapheneOS by a GrapheneOS user is a consequence of the 2018 takeover attempt on the project, which the people currently in defacto control of Seedvault were heavily involved in.

Seedvault is currently maintained by the CalyxOS team but I've never heard about this stuff. Does anybody know what happened?

subscribed  2 days ago

Yeah, it's planned for years and years at this point.

Sure I know there are more urgent priorities but at the moment there is no backup for GOS phones. It only works for some people in some situations. For me it never reliably worked, ever.

prmoustache  2 days ago

Neat, I didn't realize it was still included. I thought it had been abandonned.

So basically one needs a webdav server somewhere or an usb flash drive.

  • gruez  2 days ago

    The problem is that most apps opt out of backup, so it's effectively useless.

    • grapheneos  1 day ago

      Android 12 changed the meaning of allowBackup="false" to opting out of cloud backups. GrapheneOS encrypted backups use the device-to-device transfer mode which includes apps opted out of cloud backups. It's similar to the Google Play data transfer feature, not Google's backup system.

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  • flexagoon  2 days ago

    I use Seedvault to create a backup locally on my phone, and then sync it to my backup server with Syncthing

  • Helmut10001  2 days ago

    I use local seedvault backup and then sync via round sync daily trigger to my Nextcloud WebDav Server (native seedvault was not able to use this, for some reason).

  • preisschild  15 hours ago

    It also supports the Android Storage Access Framework, so other forms of network "cloud" storage are also supported as long as the client ("cloud storage app") implements the correct api, so not only webdav

SuperShibe  2 days ago

It's been planned for years...

  • microtonal  2 days ago

    TTS has also been planned for a while and they released it recently. Donating or helping out is going to do more than complaining on HN.

    • grapheneos  1 day ago

      TTS is also in the process of being massively improved. What we've included is only an initial bare minimum implementation. We also plan to add speech-to-text but we may only support using existing models for it since it's harder and a model doesn't need to be bundled with the OS for accessibility.