Comment by skitsofrandom

2 days ago

Yeah but if you're a normal guy strolling through every time with a phone that has nothing- no pictures, no signed in email, no history of messages, 4 contacts. That's abnormal, no way of spinning it as "but I just don't use my phone much" will make that seem normal. The average person has their phone glued to their body 24/7 now. Implying that you don't is abnormal.

"I only ever cross borders with a blank phone because I don’t want you invading my privacy" is a perfectly valid answer. You can also add that it is your employer’s policy and/or your government official recommendation.

  • You can also point out that other countries want to search phones too.

    "I have to do this because of country X, you know that they're like, amirite?"

  • > a perfectly valid answer

    Makes no difference at all in the real world. You don't have to give valid answers, you need to get the guy across from you to not find you suspicious. That phrase is going to put a red flag on you, valid or not.

    • > you need to get the guy across from you to not find you suspicious.

      What? No, who cares about that? Let him find you suspicious, what matters is that he doesn’t access your data. And it is not suspicious to cross borders (esp. US borders) with burner phones. As others have said, it is standard practice.

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  • It's one that will get you denied entry, or detained indefinitely.

    • I have worked for employers that required taking a burner phone to certain countries without any accounts logged in, etc. (so mostly for calls, maps, and web browsing) and nobody has ever been detained or denied entry. Some countries know that this is just standard procedure when they are visited for business trips. Probably different for the US though.

      (Not legal advise of course, just observation. Always check with the legal department of your employer, etc.)

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"I got on pickpocketed on my last vacation, so now I travel with an old backup phone instead"

  • This may feel like a good idea as a “gotcha” justification but it just doesn’t matter. It’s still extremely abnormal and you will stick out. The only way to protect yourself is by blending in, not sticking out.

    • i am familiar with a number of the security team personnel, so i can give you the inside perspective.

      the reaction you provoke at a border crossing, or an LEO encounter is almost entirely based on what profile you fit.

      the vehicle, the state/contents of the vehicle, what you say, even how you move, are being evaluated for consistency with a profile.

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