Comment by homebrewer

13 hours ago

Christ. Imagine if bridges, skyscrapers, dams, cars, airplanes were designed and built like that.

I vibeslopped thousands of pages of blueprints, nobody reviewed them, but another team of digital monkeys with the intellect of an ant have already built the bridge, and it seems to not have collapsed yet, so we're already directing traffic there.

I can't imagine actual engineers feeling anything but deepest contempt for this industry.

"Actual engineers" don't really care about software engineering, much less a strong emotion at all like the "deepest contempt" and many of them already vibe code today for their work anyway.

  • Oh no, we do, because the software world has been abusing what engineering means for decades, in order to inflate job titles. Most people are programmers, not software engineers, and that's OK.

    • What we do is absolutely engineering, there’s just a lot less credentialing upfront and rigor before something is released, because usually people’s lives do not depend on it and it’s easy to release updates.

      But it is indeed engineering, and that’s OK.

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    • Maybe you're an outlier seeing as you're even on this forum. Most other non software engineers I know do not give a single thought about "title inflation," it does not even register in their minds as a topic to think about.

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> already built the bridge, and it seems to not have collapsed yet, so we're already directing traffic there.

“Actual” engineering went through a phase where bridges and other structures did collapse due to structural flaws - it’s not like they magically figured out ahead of time how to avoid that.

Now, they can build structures that are some specified tolerance away from collapsing, but that’s only the case because the edges of what was possible were explored.