Comment by hgoel

5 hours ago

Really showing that you aren't engaging in good faith and your repeated incorrect interpretations of my words are out of a desire to cover for Musk.

To spell it out for you further, the owner's actions matter. It doesn't matter that it was specifically Elon doing it. The owner promoting the ability to produce and post illicit content is the opposite of making reasonable efforts to control it!

For some inexplicable reason, you've decided to make an entire post I made, about Elon Musk. I was referring to grok as one example of people indicating they wanted anti-porn guardrails, other platforms have been challenged with law suits as well.

If you want, you can substitute character.ai and their need to add age verification, due to pending law suits. It makes no difference. All this noise about Elon is entirely, completely, and absolutely irrelevant to the point I was making. Nothing you have said shows otherwise.

The owners actions, in terms of determining the legal implications for all platforms, for attempts to ban open models, for what guardrails platforms must have, are irrelevant. We're talking about setting standards which will last decades, if not longer, legal precedent, and how this is handled will change the entire marketplace.

Some tweets you didn't like have no importance in this kind of discussion. The stance of an owner of one company, have no importance in this discussion. Grok was used as an example, there are others, as cited above.

No, it doesn't matter that Musk this and Musk that. I don't care. It's not relevant.

You've missed the entire point I was making, entirely and completely, which was that there can not be two standards. If it's illegal to have a model produce porn, or CSAM, or whatever, then it must, I repeat must be application agnostic, be regardless of how that model is run.

Yet here you are, almost frothing at the mouth, on and on about Musk. You're like a bull that saw red somewhere. I don't care about whatever US style politics are involved here. I don't care about Musk. Musk, or US politics are not important to me. Musk has nothing to do with the point I was making.

I don't know how to make this any plainer to you. Any response where you talk about Musk, is an incorrect response. This thread isn't about Musk. I don't care about Musk. I don't care about your opinions of Musk.

Hopefully the above clears up your incredibly weird, out of the blue obsession with Musk as a topic in this thread.

  • At this point I just have to assume that you're trolling. Idk how much more explicitly I have to say that it doesn't matter who the owner is, it matters what the owner did.