Comment by what_hn

4 hours ago

Does a 60x speedup count? Are you still copying and pasting from chatgpt, because if so your definitely doing it wrong.

Wait, how about an infinite speedup? A friend of mine couldn't code, and now he can. So he is infinity-x better at coding thanks to LLMS!

Take that, you mere 10x-ers! Your days are toast!

  • Left behind, as the infinite-x rockstar developer roars off on their motorbike, trailing a plume of dust behind

If 60x was a thing, we would see many fantastic products appearing on the market, every product would have improved or goten major new interesting features. Yet it hasn't really happened.

  • 10x or 60x of very little is still not much. "Working programmers" unable to write FizzBuzz exist.

    10x or 60x of a negative value is a 10-60x bigger problem than that initial negative value. We all regularly commit things that are actually net negative.

    Finally, 10x or 60x more productivity channeled into yet another static site generator, CMS, or programming language doesn't really help in improving products or developing new interesting features.

    In short: LLMs offer real productivity gains, but they are still tools, and they are very new, so we misuse them a lot, in various ways (not limited to examples above). Unless they replace programmers and can consistently produce better than average code (even if they fail catastrophically in a few cases), they won't fundamentally change programming. They did change a lot, but not enough to get the result you're describing.

  • I believe I have seen 60x improvements on certain classes of bugs. Just not on development as a whole

    And I've also seen the other side, where vibe coding on projects that had bad code quality to start with leads to bug riddled messes. Projects with beautiful and elaborate test harnesses, that break seconds after contact with a real human user