Comment by bkieffer

11 hours ago

Is the AI that writes "about as well as humans" in the room with us right now?

Did you stop reading at the em-dash?

> Artificial Intelligence is writing about as well as humans — at least well enough to cause confusion and speculation

No matter your opinion on AI writing, this is just a fact.

  • The average person, yes. A professional, competent writer, editor, journalist? Not even close (currently).

    • Again - did you even read the article you are commenting on? The author gives an example of a novel that had a huge advance offered on it and then pulled because of AI concerns... in order to get to the point of having the offer a bunch of competent writers, editors etc didn't notice.

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  • The intentional typo "is't" needs work. Either drop the apostrophe like the yoots or stick to believable transpositions.

  • "But then I have to remind myself that I don’t sound like AI, it sounds like me. I’ve been em-dashing and comma-splicing up a motherfucking storm these past two decades. It was fun then, and it’s fun now."

    From the source.

    • The em-dash thing really annoys me. Using them has been house style the last couple of places I worked and I'm not just going to stop using them because some idiot might think they were generated by AI.

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  • Microsoft Word has auto-inserted em-dashes when you use hyphens in such a sentence since forever. Em-dashes are never a proof of AI-generated text.

  • since when is "confusion and speculation" an indicator of quality/goodness? if I ran around naked in traffic it would also cause confusion and speculation.

    • This is a terrible analogy.

      It's quite clear that the author means AI writing is now good enough to cause confusion and speculation as to whether a given piece of writing was human-authored.

      The confusion and speculation caused by your nude transit adventure is about what the hell you're doing and why.

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    • I think he's talking about it more in the sense that there will be speculation about the provenance of some work.

      For example, if desktop fabrication tools get cheap and good enough, maybe one day garage tinkerers will be making Patek knock offs that an expert with a loupe, spectrometer, and a lot of time can't definitively say that any particular watch made after 2034 (to pick a date) is genuine. That would cause a lot of confusion and speculation in the market for used watches.

      I think that's what his crypto bros comment was all about (aside from being a joke). Maybe crypto tech could provide evidence to support provenance claims?

    • You're misunderstanding ... that's not at all the claim. Confusion and speculation is a consequence, not an indicator. Running around naked in traffic might well cause confusion and speculation, but it wouldn't cause anyone to confuse you with an automobile or result in speculation that are one.

      At least AI is better at reading than are most people.

I initially interpreted this as "Artificial Intelligence _is_ [defined as] writing about as well as humans", which would imply that common LLMs are slowly approaching Artifical Intelligence. Though English is not my native language.