Comment by yza

6 hours ago

Why develop this when the core editor is almost unusable? On Linux wayland, copypaste is broken, the file manager is laggy and snippets do not trigger before the heavy hint logic is done. This is just on top of my head, the list is long

I had to stop using Zed because of this issue (which persists despite being closed): https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/38109

I can't use an editor where the file contents I'm being shown don't match the reality of the file. I guess this issue doesn't affect most people somehow, but in the age of CLI agents I'm not sure how more people aren't running into it.

I was really enjoying Zed for a short while before I ran into this fundamental issue.

  • I do not have this issue. (Yes, I am on Linux/Wayland)

    • All I can say is it's the only editor I've ever used with this type of issue and unfortunately it's a deal breaker for me. I can get by with any other editor even if they aren't my favorite, but only Zed made me realize that the most important thing an editor can do for me is accurately show me files.

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"Almost unusable"? Slight hyperbole don't you think? I initially tried the Flatpak version on Fedora 44 and had a few minor problems, but since switching to the terra repos version (terrapkg.com) I've had zero issues, Have you tried that?

For me, its a massive improvement over IntelliJ for my daily workflow.

  • This is surprising to hear. I have Zed on my tablet as IntelliJ (PyCharm/RustRover) turn it into a space heater. Zed's introspection/refactoring/general language knowledge etc isn't on the same tier at JB; it's closer to VsCode in that regard. I.e., I'd classify Zed as a project-based editor, while JB is an IDE.

  • > massive improvement over IntelliJ for my daily workflow.

    Why?

    I used Zed for about 6 months but I lost motivation.

    I have the full jetbrains subscription and use it for some debugging etc. I got vim for quick edits and cli tooling for ai. I got no use case for Zed.

  • Im on nixos and tried all immediate flavours of zed: stable, unstable and nightly. Nightly seems to be most stable and every time i pull the flake, i prey for more bugs to be fixed. Sometimes it works

  • I have been using Zed for about a year now on Debian 12 / Wayland and it works flawlessly. Even with Toshy (macOS) keybindings. I have it installed now on my Framework 13 Pro (also Fedora 44, and also with Toshy) and it works great aside from a subtle (100ms?) lag when using ctrl+arrow-key. Otherwise it is great.

    The only thing that doesn't work well is inertial scrolling[0]. But scrolling is a fucking shit show on Linux no matter what... so I don't necessarily fault Zed for this. The same issue occurs in other apps.

    - [0] https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/14473

  • >> For me, its a massive improvement over IntelliJ for my daily workflow.

    That's a bit of a low bar. Perhaps that's the disconnect?

Just installed it, works on my kde and niri setups (I logged out and switched to each), copy paste works as well. File manager laggi-ness I didn't notice I don't use it, I use it mostly to type stuff out.

I have never used snippets so unsure about that too, going from command bar seemed to work.

I think it might be bad, but could also be it's not correctly configured maybe try asking codex/claude or something to check if it can fix/fine tune the config, if that doesn't work file issues?

I do suspect it might be working for me cause I got lucky I do see an open issue[1], but given Zed is used a bunch the lack of comments does suggest maybe it's not that wide spread either way not a good look.

[1]: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/47004

Maybe I got lucky?? Does it not auto update on linux maybe I am on an old build... Very suspicious.

  • The copy-paste bug manifests itself after some time and the bug is silent.

    • I regularly leave it open for days and never run into any copy/paste bugs in Wayland/Flatpak.

I use it as a daily driver with few if any problems, but I'm on macOS. Maybe their Linux support is particularly crappy?

  • There are a lot of subtle bugs. I'm on macOS too, but perhaps my workflow is unusual? Every time I open it, I find small bugs. There are so many features that it's hard to maintain them, I guess.

    For example, a lot of disable buttons do not actually disable stuff. They just hide it from the UI.

  • Yep. Many issues are Linux only. And even with the issues it’s still more pleasant to use than vscode/ium.

Agree, copy-paste feels like it works 80% of the time, which is maddening when 1 in 5 copy paste attempts fail. (mostly from zed to something else) Why??

At least Excel has the courtesy to telling you "Hey the copy-paste buffer said it didn't catch that, can you try again?"

Linux Wayland (Ubuntu 26.04)

It still doesn't actually display a window my end until I press a keyboard key or move the mouse. So very often I sit and wait for it to open, only to realize I have to press a random key for it to unhide.

Terrible Linux support.

  • That's something I've never encountered on Linux/KDE/Wayland/Flatpak across Debian Trixie, Arch, and Fedora. Might be worth nuking your local Zed files and trying again.

I started using Zed a couple weeks ago and immediately had issues with copy/paste/buffer on an M1 Mac. I tried a few suggested fixes and they didn't work.

I've been using this "almost unusable" editor daily on both Linux and Mac for the past year and now experience no issues. while I still have JetBrains I haven't used it at all in at least six months.

why develop this when it seems jetbrains had a local history feature which recorded every change for the past decade(s)

> when the core editor is almost unusable

Shit, as someone who uses Zed everyday, I didn't realize what I am using is unusable.

Because it's not broken, the issues you're describing are far from universal. Also, fixing them won't bring any money.