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Comment by tristanj

5 hours ago

Meta is offering a 10x discount on input ($0.10 vs. $1.25/Mtok) and 20x discount on output ($0.20 vs. $4.25/Mtok) if you opt in to let them train on your data.

https://developer.meta.com/ai/models/muse-spark/

I actually really like that pricing strategy. It's very transparent

  • I love the idea of this pricing strategy but there is no way meta is not training on your data regardless of your monthly invoice

    • So you think the only difference between the $1.25/million token plan and the $0.10/million token plan is that you pay them more to both lie to you and breach their contractual obligation to you?

This makes it a very interesting alternative to Deepseek for personal work where I don't care about the training - judging by the AA benchmarks it seems like overall cost per task is similar to the new Deepseek Flash but with better benchmarks (and inbuilt vision capabilities).

  • Except with one you know they'll release the weights and architecture back to the community, with the other, it leans towards they won't do that.

Probably to compete with DeepSeek, which AFAIK also retains data (or at least OpenRouter says they do)

  • FYI: there are providers of deepseek that offer the same or lower pricing and zero retention policies.

    • Unfortunately, none with the same caching performance as DeepSeek proper.

  • DeepSeek is really crazy cheap, though, and they don't have a giant pool of other invasive personal data to correlate it with.

    • I hate to say this and this is because I fucking despise meta. But between DeepSeek and Meta, and trust they handle the training data correctly, I trust meta.

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Meta, please offer this on OpenRouter too (ZDR + Non-ZDR, official Meta Provider).