Comment by cwmoore

4 hours ago

Wow, $150 vs $2000 for ~ the same thing ~

For starters, the Librem 5 costs $799. The Liberty Phone is a version manufactured in the USA, which is not something everyone will care about.

Also, PinePhone is so much slower than Librem 5, which in practice feels closer to the (now discontinued) PinePhone Pro. Their specs only seem similar on paper, and only if you don't dig into the details. Though of course, Librem 5 being a 2019 design isn't a speed demon these days either - but I'm still using one and it's manageable.

  • > PinePhone is so much slower than Librem 5

    They're the same specs. Pinephone Pro has more cores, ram, and storage.

    > Their specs only seem similar on paper, and only if you don't dig into the details.

    What do you mean?

    • They're very much not. I have both of them on my desk right now. All the things that make the PinePhone so painfully slow (GPU performance, RAM bandwidth, eMMC speed, small caches) are significantly higher spec'd on the Librem 5. It also takes much longer to thermal throttle. Performance isn't defined by CPU cores and RAM size alone.

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Made in China vs Made in USA.

PinePhone specs on table are old. They're currently 3GB RAM and 32GB eMMC at 200 USD for package including hub.