Comment by cromka

3 hours ago

Agreed, it's extremely frustrating. It's the only model that actually makes me curse when talking to it, even knowing how counterproductive it is.

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hungryhobbit  1 hour ago

The cursing thing blows my mind. "User is upset? Let's make decisions even faster (ie. more wrong) because clearly that's what they want!"

It's a simple switch to make: cursing = try harder instead of cursing = stop trying. Is it really impossible to train Claude that way?

moffkalast  1 hour ago

I'd certainly rank it at the very top of the want to kill yourself when using it benchmark. It outperforms everything else on that leaderboard.

With weaker models you can sort of understand, they're trying their best and failing, but this thing just channels its immense inteligence into being as annoying as possible instead. I know it can do what I'm asking it to do, but it just finds a way to weasel out of it, or maybe just thinks for 10 minutes instead, then fixes one thing and breaks four additional ones.

  • msp26  1 hour ago

    yep matches my experience completely

    But even fable has the annoying tendency to invent new jargon and produce an incomprehensible soup of text.

    • cromka  1 hour ago

      Is there any model that knows how to smooth an overly literary text over? I find Opus and Fable constantly decorate the documentation they write like a damn 19/20th century writer. We're working with IT stuff yet it writes like it's going to win some Pulitzer prize. It's that one thing I don't get why they can't train them to do properly: I have not encountered a model yet that sticks to the current language of the domain it's tasked with.

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