When you make politics a big part of your identity, you can’t help but to inject it everywhere. It’s glaringly weird and annoying for those of us who are apathetic and just want to talk about tech, but that’s how it has been for a few years.
It's not virtue signaling. People are allowed to have morals. And they are allowed to act in ways that align with those moral beliefs.
> do you use Apple equipment despite Apple’s use of Chinese slave labor?
If someone said they didn't buy Apple because of this, I'd support them in that too.
People. Are. Complicated. We're allowed to have beliefs, we're allowed to have beliefs that aren't internally consistent. You gotta get over the idea that people aren't genuine believers in their beliefs.
The issue is that this is supposed to be a tech discussion forum and many of us don’t want to be repeatedly beaten over the head with other people’s politics. Plenty of other places to be political, we just wish this wasn’t one of them.
There's always been "politics" embedded in this tech discussion forum. Generally you shouldn't discuss politics for politics sake, but if someone's politics are intersecting with their product (which is Musk's entire MO), of course people will have thoughts.
Besides, if Musk embeds his politics into everything he does, it's fair game to discuss his merits in that arena.
Tech has always been political. You think Mitnick and Woz weren't political? You think windows and the powerpc werent political? That social media isn't political?
You don't like seeing politics you disagree with. You just don't think things you agree with are politics.
I come to HN to learn, to be exposed to different modes of thought. To engage in useful creative discourse over disagreements. The idea that HN or tech is free from politics is intellectually vacant thinking.
> The issue is that this is supposed to be a tech discussion forum and many of us don’t want to be repeatedly beaten over the head with other people’s politics.
Maybe that wouldn’t be a problem if Elon Musk would lay off the ketamine and shut his fucking mouth sometime. But instead he spends all day tweeting about how anyone he doesn’t like is a “traitor to western civilization” and calling for executions.
Why is it surprising that people are reacting to his words and actions? You want the politics to go away, get a CEO that doesn’t make everything political.
Your analogy is goofy. An analogy is like, "People don't go to other people's kitchens and discuss their thoughts on McDonalds". And yeah, they totally do.
The person isn't complaining about grok to grok, they aren't even complaining about grok on X.
Do you not ever 'vote with your wallet'?
When you make politics a big part of your identity, you can’t help but to inject it everywhere. It’s glaringly weird and annoying for those of us who are apathetic and just want to talk about tech, but that’s how it has been for a few years.
> It’s glaringly weird and annoying for those of us who are apathetic
Do you think being apathetic is a good thing?
You may not care about politics, but politics definitely cares about you.
Get some emotions and care about people
It's not virtue signaling. People are allowed to have morals. And they are allowed to act in ways that align with those moral beliefs.
> do you use Apple equipment despite Apple’s use of Chinese slave labor?
If someone said they didn't buy Apple because of this, I'd support them in that too.
People. Are. Complicated. We're allowed to have beliefs, we're allowed to have beliefs that aren't internally consistent. You gotta get over the idea that people aren't genuine believers in their beliefs.
The issue is that this is supposed to be a tech discussion forum and many of us don’t want to be repeatedly beaten over the head with other people’s politics. Plenty of other places to be political, we just wish this wasn’t one of them.
There's always been "politics" embedded in this tech discussion forum. Generally you shouldn't discuss politics for politics sake, but if someone's politics are intersecting with their product (which is Musk's entire MO), of course people will have thoughts.
Besides, if Musk embeds his politics into everything he does, it's fair game to discuss his merits in that arena.
Tech has always been political. You think Mitnick and Woz weren't political? You think windows and the powerpc werent political? That social media isn't political?
You don't like seeing politics you disagree with. You just don't think things you agree with are politics.
I come to HN to learn, to be exposed to different modes of thought. To engage in useful creative discourse over disagreements. The idea that HN or tech is free from politics is intellectually vacant thinking.
> many of us don’t want to be repeatedly beaten over the head with other people’s politics
I agree completely. That's why I won't use Grok: its owner repeatedly beats us over the head with his politics, and I won't encourage it.
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> The issue is that this is supposed to be a tech discussion forum and many of us don’t want to be repeatedly beaten over the head with other people’s politics.
Maybe that wouldn’t be a problem if Elon Musk would lay off the ketamine and shut his fucking mouth sometime. But instead he spends all day tweeting about how anyone he doesn’t like is a “traitor to western civilization” and calling for executions.
Why is it surprising that people are reacting to his words and actions? You want the politics to go away, get a CEO that doesn’t make everything political.
> It's not virtue signaling.
Oh but it is. Normal people don't go to McDonalds shouting: "I refuse to eat here because they kill cows!". They just... don't go there.
Your analogy is goofy. An analogy is like, "People don't go to other people's kitchens and discuss their thoughts on McDonalds". And yeah, they totally do.
The person isn't complaining about grok to grok, they aren't even complaining about grok on X.
Didn’t realize we were posting on the xAI website. My mistake