Comment by wvenable

2 hours ago

Did they really have broader values or did they just not have the technical sophistication to optimize their operation to this level? Where "values" just a substitute for more limited information?

I think computers have made the structure of the present inevitable.

Imo a bit of both.

The founders [1] of mcdonalds probably did care about say cheaply providing people with enjoyable food. But I would bet soon after they sold [2] the company the actual values changed and definitely a bunch of CEOs down the road the guy put in charge is there for shareholder return.

I personally don't think it's computers. It's unfettered corperatization. Stop giving companies corporate charters to "do all business activities allowed by X state" and instead give them more narrow charters.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_and_Maurice_McDonald

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Kroc

  • Richard and Maurice McDonald had a small business that almost certainly wouldn't even be around today if they didn't sell to Ray Kroc. The McDonald's we know is a corporation. Corporatization is the process of turning government agencies, public services, or non-business organization into corporations. A more broad interpretation would be applying corporate philosophy to non-corporate things.

    McDonald's is already a corporation -- corporatization doesn't apply.

    If you don't want corporations to be corporate; I don't what to tell you!

Arguably, there were different values in effect in the past.

There was more emphasis on values like: God-as-god. Country. Family. Courage. Integrity.

The newer values are more like: Money-as-god. Survival. Cats. Dopamine maxxing.

I may get downvoted for mentioning religion in the context of a question about values. But to bring data into it, it's reportedly a fact that "None" [0] as a dominant religious self-identity is indeed a newer/increased phenomenon. It would be hard to argue thats that's not a clear measure of shift in values.

[0] https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/18652908-the-rise-of-...