Comment by spijdar

2 days ago

I wonder how this practically compares with Muse Glimmer, especially quantized.

I've got an RX 7900 XT (20GB of VRAM) and I can run glimmer with a full 128k context window with the draft model at 65-80 tok/s.

This model, on the other hand, I get about 30 tok/s with a 30k context. Raising the context or loading the draft layers for MTP drops performance to 9-15 tok/s.

So I wonder how big the "real world" delta between Glimmer and Qwen is here. I can already run 3-bit DSv4-flash at 9-15 tok/s with 100k~ context, and I suspect it would outperform 4-bit Qwen 3.8 27B here.

I'll have to experiment and see if I just made a stupid mistake somewhere, but it looks like Glimmer might make more sense for the comically specific niche of "20GB VRAM".

I'm in the exact same boat with a 7900 XT and a good Glimmer 30B experience. I was really hoping qwen 3.8 would bring some memory/space efficiency savings along the lines of whatever is going on with Glimmer 30B. I have been surprised that a 30 billion model fits and runs better (at higher unsloth quantization! UD-Q4_K_XL fits!) than a 27 billion model.

From my limited tests, Qwen has better reasoning which is a bummer because Muse Glimmer is literally twice as fast.