Comment by linkjuice4all
1 day ago
Cutting them down isn’t the worst idea but it would be nice if we could just elect people that wouldn’t allow this in the first place. Knowing that won’t happen, the only chance reasonable people have to stop this is to turn these systems against the decision makers until they yield.
Some kind of Flock@home volunteer surveillance network that tracks politicians, records LEO interactions (including those involving masked unaccountable agents), and provides the only accountability that the public has left.
What do you mean "allow"? Police chiefs are not elected positions and they often find funding outside of the town's budget for these automated bill of rights violation machines.
Sheriffs are elected (except in New York City, Rhode Island and Hawaii) and responsible for a county whereas a police chief manages law enforcement in a city or town and is appointed by its local government.
There are a lot of sheriffs.
Does the police deptartment own the land where the cameras are installed?
Sparrowmap.com is an attempt
Remember when someone set up a website tracking Elon Musk's private jet? iirc he politely asked him to take it offline.
Elon Musk fully tweaked out and I believe banned his twitter account. There’s some people who think he bought out twitter purely for this power, to unilaterally ban people who annoy him. He also offered some money for the kid to take it down, which he refused. It was really not enough money if I remember correctly, maybe 10,000 dollars. Me personally, if I was squeezed to give up my conviction, I’d at least want to maximize my profit.
> Cutting them down isn’t the worst idea but it would be nice if we could just elect people that wouldn’t allow this in the first place.
Is this really better though? First-party community maintenance is more direct, cheaper, and doesn't rely on fragile central authorities (granted, it _does_ rely on a difficult pattern of community discussion and collaboration to satisfy tribal consensus, etc).
I'm broadly OK with cameras being in public, but I have much more trust in direct action than I do in elected "officials".
On medium time-scales, it seems to me that a great solution will be to have community-maintained cameras kinda all over the commons, but such that the camera eye can be accessed publicly (ie, removing the information asymmetry which gives the undesirable actors (police, etc) greater view than the actual community participants).