Comment by matheusmoreira
20 hours ago
Lifestyle changes are essentially standard medical advice. There is nothing wrong with proposing diet and exercise.
It's just that you should probably suggest other treatments in addition to the lifestyle changes that have relatively low long term efficacy.
Of course, that assumes your goal is to actually help the fatties instead of judging them.
> Of course, that assumes your goal is to actually help the fatties
I don't believe that's possible. They have to choose a healthier lifestyle by themselves.
It's not that people are fat because no one told them to eat healthy and exercise sometimes. They're fat because they have ignored that advice for a long time.
They aren't missing information about diet and exercise, they're missing diet and exercise.
You don't believe it's possible? Obviously it's possible! Look around, we have what are essentially miracle drugs available, and you are still pushing ideas that have mostly failed for the last 50 years!
Failed for the past 50 years but worked for the last 300 000 years
I wonder what changed in between? Maybe our food and our relation to it? Who knows right?
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> I don't believe that's possible.
You believe incorrectly.
> They're fat because they have ignored that advice for a long time.
Ah yes, the medical equivalent of "works on my machine".
You've now shifted from "how effective is this treatment" to "whose fault is it when the treatment doesn't work".
You will be able to help the fatties when you shift back into asking the question that matters.
Well, the proposed solution works basically 100%, the problem is, as with most issues, people. Tell folks they should not eat sweet things for rest of their lives and half go catatonic when they realize reality of it. The other half go medicating such induced stress with a bucket of ice cream or similar. This is not problem of underlying solution per se, its the problem of expecting too much out of most people.
But you are right with the fact that at the end, it mostly doesn't work. But those who stick with regime, it works 100% and positive changes in life, quality, happiness etc are massive.
The real solution - treat underlying mental issues. They are always there with obese people, they are massive (no pun intended), and they manifest as obesity, among plethora of other mental issues.
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