Comment by Fergusonb
14 hours ago
Luna saw a huge jump after the price cut and is one of the more competitive models at the new price on openrouter.
Maybe they want to see how much market they can grab with Sol?
This might help but there are already cheaper models with Sol's intelligence more or less, the most notable being Grok 4.6 at $6/m which makes it a tougher sell
SOL 5.6 usage actually looks unchanged on the day https://openrouter.ai/provider/openai
I'd be surprised if they closed out over 100B tokens today (they did 101B on sol 5.6 yesterday).
It's really only between Anthropic and OpenAI for many of my use cases, since I have a Zero Data Retention agreement with both. I'm not trusting random inference providers and especially not Elmo with sensitive data.
Deepinfra is US based and has ZDR FYI.
I am quite happy with them so far.
or Tinfoil [0]? They serve open models with container integrity attested by Nvidia/AMD enclaves. Every cloud provider offers this of course, but not usually in a way that can be shared between distrusting users for economical inference. It still relies on the open-source containers being secure, and there's probably hardware sidechannels and stuff, but personally (ie privacy not liability) I trust it more than a contract
[0] https://tinfoil.sh
I loaded credits into Tinfoil the other day and have had zero issues, thanks to smart folks around here and the security space recommending it.
It's now my open weight inference provider of choice, since on top of the privacy/security characteristics it's also reasonably cheap.
plenty of companies offer ZDR and are just as random as OpenAI and Anthropic in their age
Would love a few names. Many of them fail to provide good uptime for large scale jobs or don’t have batch apis at all in my research.
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You do not have a ZDR with Anthropic.
For Mythos and even Fable they require prompt retention on their end.
edit: or more precisely if you want to access Mythos/Fable ZDR does not apply, and depending on config the exclusion can affect other models.
I don't have experience directly with Anthropic, but I wouldn't assume anything with such high confidence without knowing the persons situation. No, an individual off the street or with an LLC and 5 employees isn't going to get a special deal from someone like Anthropic.
But if their employer is bringing millions of dollars of potential spend to the table, can tell you from years of experience that turns a lot of 'no's' to 'yes'.
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There's a huge jump between OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, and every other major player distilling the internet into LLMs and deliberately breaking a mutually signed contract between them and another business.
As for ZDR and court-orders, what would you rather happen there? Violate the law or comply with holding the data? I would bet that any ZDR agreement has this court-ordered risk mutually understood and agreed upon.
Since when does Grok 4.6 have Sol 5.6's intelligence? I don't believe it.
I do have free sol and cursor ultra for 200 I prefer grok over sol, they are equally capable but grok is faster
I use Grok 4.6 every day; it's good, but it's not Opus 5 or Sol 5.6. The gap is closing, though.
Why not?
Because it’s good on benchmarks but not on real usage?
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It doesn't.
I wonder if xAI is A/B testing routing some difficult grok 4.6 queries to Sol to seed some true believers.
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