Comment by josefritzishere

10 hours ago

Evidence of what? Destroying evidence assumes he is guilty of a crime which there be evidence of. Our system is predicated on an assumption of innocence. The normal threshold to accuse is a "reasonable, articulable suspicion." This does not meet that criteria.

Destroying evidence or items believed to be evidence is a crime in itself, regardless of whether or not the original "evidence" or lack thereof pertains to a crime.

Well that's the thing with destroying evidence. If you destroyed it, it becomes harder (or impossible) to prove you did the crime. That's why it's not uncommon for people to be only charged with stuff like "obstruction of justice" rather than the actual crime they allegedly did.

  • But you can't assume someone committed a crime.

    • In this case, the authorities are claiming they were looking for CSAM. So wiping the phone hindered a valid investigation.

      They can say anything they want. They hold all the power. This will never change until enough people take matters into their own hands, as the system has been compromised.

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  • And what if he was erasing a steamy affair with a border patrol agent? That's not illegal, but releasing knowledge of it could be damaging to all parties for no reason.

  • if the only evidence of a crime is on your phone, what kind of crime is it?

    we should always be asking: is this the only way you can prove the accusation? just because it would make LEO life easier - that's not justification for violating the constitution.

    an consider what this case teaches us: clean up your devices before you cross a border. how does that even help the goal of law enforcement?

> Our system is predicated on an assumption of innocence.

In theory. In practice, this is a hopelessly outdated supposition.