Comment by 100percentjake

5 hours ago

Neat stuff. I use Hermes with the $20/mo ChatGPT Codex integration, myself, as well as Qwen running locally on a 64GB M1 Max Macbook Pro to help save my ever-quickly shrinking Codex credits. It's been wonderful for stuff like, say, giving Hermes an account on my Home Assistant server (after taking a backup) and having it make a bunch of configurations, or draw conclusions based on historical sensor data (trying to determine if my A/C is undersized by feeding Hermes all the capabilities of my system, size of house, and letting it pull room temp sensor data from HA is one project I did recently), is absolutely fantastic. It also spins me up little webapps for things like a very me-specific RSS reader, a "to do" checklist that references my email (and archives said emails when I mark an item off the list), and various little internal IT tools and report generators.

The Hermes subreddit is a curious place where every second person has quick their $300k a year job and is making a living off of Hermes doing... something? They treat themselves as the CEO of a bunch of agentic employees and have AI generated infographics of their "Stack" (all hail the mighty Stack) and everybody stands in a circle and applauds the most convoluted Hermes setups you've ever seen with not a single word how any of this is supposedly making anybody any money.

Are people developing like this? Are people asking money for something they one-shot instructions to an orchestration agent which delegated to fifteen other agents in Kanban and then spat out something that "works"? Every project I've ever had an LLM do a majority of the work for me has been strictly for my personal use; I'd never let anyone else use this stuff because it doesn't pass the vibe check. When a new frontier model comes out I'll pass the previous frontier model's work past the new model and let it tear it to shreds and see what improvements could be made for shits, giggles, and to waste a week's worth of tokens in the course of thirty minutes, but Reddit is overflowing with seeming non-coders who are passing this 100% organic slop off as sellable product?

I need fewer morals.

In my experience agentic sw development delivers if you are not too picky with the details or if you don't notice what's not done according to your instructions. If you want exactly what you had in mind, the last 10% might last a very long time and cost many tokens. More or less like working with humans.

That’s a great use of Hermes. Had it concluded if your A/C is undersized?

Before this little experiment I generally used it as a very specific search engine for houses, ‘Find me a house in the country but close to amenities with a workshop barn but close enough on the train to Manchester’. It’s great for this!

I’ve never been on the Hermes subreddit I’m gonna go check it out. I agree with the commenter below, it’s fine when I need no record my reps but don’t really care how. It writes tests but I don’t verify. It’s a manual ‘works or it doesn’t’ Thing. I’d never sell the code to anyone.