Comment by ksec

Xiaomi's Xring O3 is manufactured by TSMC N3P process in Taiwan. [1]

MediaTek Dimensity 9500 is also manufactured by TSMC N3P process in Taiwan. [2]

There was no world interdependence change (unless one considers China and Taiwan to be the same countries).

[1] https://www.notebookcheck.net/Xiaomi-launches-XRing-O3-claim...

[2] https://www.notebookcheck.net/MediaTek-Dimensity-9500-Proces...

This would be interdependence expanding. Manufacturing isn't the only kind of economic activity

I don't think it's by choice just ask all those extinct manufacturers

I think Western people still call this situation “outsourcing” when in reality what is happening is that China is better at manufacturing than everyone else, and they’re starting to be better than everyone else at design and engineering, too.

When we buy software from Silicon Valley or a nice Mercedes Benz from Germany we don’t use this same language “outsourcing.”

Colloquially, outsourcing implies low quality or cheap price. No, what’s happening here is that China makes the best products in numerous categories and we are choosing to import them, because the best products are the most desirable.

This is what was sold to – and often forced on – countries by the US and their allies via the IMF and World Bank. Global free trade meant that you only produced what you had an advantage in and bought what others could produce at lower cost.

So same as before?

I think describing what's happening "other countries seem to sit on their hands and happily outsource every bit of manufacturing to a single country" is disingenuous. It's been dubbed China Shock 2.0 and it's being taken very seriously by the EU. The US admin is a joke and too busy shooting itself in both feet to have coherent policy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Shock_2.0

Except this trend is actually reversing now, with fabs being built outside of Taiwan?

Countries and institutions should always produce things where they are excellent at producing, in forms of specialization and compete in terms of comparative advantages.

Same is true of US, Germany, Britain, etc

From the outside, it is still competition.

If they go too far to impose their system, we stop buying :)

Was it bad when it was the US doing it against the UK? Or is it only when the people doing it eat more rice than us that it is bad? People said the same thing about the Japanese (they steal designs, they copy, it is bad quality, they are stealing our jobs, and so on).

I will agree that dumping is probably just bad overall. But the US, and much of the rest of the world, allows it to happen both within and outside of their countries, sometimes even financially supporting it with government programs. So I really don't see why I should care that someone in China is doing it. We can't hold others to standards significantly higher than we hold for ourselves.

They do allow to unlock their bootloaders, which is rather rare, which in turn allows to run Linux. Seeing as Chins just migrates their entire administration to Linux, it's not far fetched to assume they'll support Linux on their laptops very soon.

No, no, the best part of the internet is complaining about downvotes in a “I’m totally not mad about it” tone.