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Comment by FrustratedMonky

2 days ago

Humans like cities.

It brings people together for mating.

It wasn't only industrialization.

Even today, before AI, once you find a mate, THEN, you move to the suburbs.

It wasn't even industrialisation - it was agriculture. Do people really like cities? I am not so sure - certainly many do, but many also hanker for the village and there are a bunch of interesting theories about us working well at 'village scale' (I could be easily convinced that no-one hankers for the suburbs..) I think if the economic opportunities were not so heavily weighted towards cities we would see much reduced urbanisation.

  • "do people really like cities? I am not so sure"

    Just look at real estate prices in New York, SF, Boston, etc. Yes, people REALLY like cities. Even the wealthiest people who can afford anything still choose cities

    • How much of this is because that's where the jobs are? Take that away and where would people choose to live? Wasn't there a notable exodus from SF, for example, during covid when many jobs went remote?

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They're also much cheaper from an infrastructure perspective to maintain

  • Life in the city is more expensive, in my experience though. Richer, with vastly more options, sure - but more expensive overall.

    • In the US it's a supply and demand problem. America chose redlining. White flight. More cars, less public transit. They largely stopped building desireable new mixed use medium density neighbourhoods after WW2.

That's a pretty unhinged idea you've presented; feels completely autobiographical.

  • People move out to the suburbs after they're married with kids? How is that unhinged?

    • It's just a strange comment; feels off. Like you're an Easterner imitating an American or something. Very odd.