Comment by deadbabe

2 days ago

> Vague prohibitions on "disturbing" or "inappropriate" content, whatever that is.

I have prompted out a lot of disturbing and inappropriate content with GLM-5.2, that would have left other American models blanched in the face or clutch their pearls. I think this is mostly a reference to Anti-CCP stuff.

In fact, I don't think I've ever even had a prompt refused.

> In fact, I don't think I've ever even had a prompt refused.

I very much have. I've gotten GLM-5.2 refusals for extremely benign security testing on my own infrastructure of the same flavor that people were getting (wrongly) flagged for on Fable during the initial release.

  • That's alarming. I want to use these models to red team my own computers. How are people getting around this?

    • In my experience some of these models may have learnt some censoring during distillation of Western models, but these are mostly just there as a probable response. So if they first happen to respond "I ain't doing this because legality", then you will have a hard time "convincing" it, but either rolling the dice again (so that it may not come up with the I can't do that text) or rewriting the conversation history a bit will get it going.

      I sometimes just switch to a model I know is less smart to block stuff so that it has a text agreeing to do that, and then switch to a stronger model to actually go at the task.

      Your mileage may vary though.

    • > I want to use these models to red team my own computers.

      Exactly what I was trying to use it for! ):

      I'm in the same boat - I haven't heard of a way to get around it aside from either self-hosting (GLM-5.2? good luck) or "self-hosting" (paying bucks per hour to Vast) an abliterated model.

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It is cliche, but I haven't had good luck with having Chinese models openly discuss historical topics like Tienanmen Square. The US models don't seem to have a problem discussing history, even if it points an unglamorous light on the US government.

  • And there's a reason for that: the US government does not compel model trainers to train their models to paint them in a favorable light, while the PRC does.