Comment by kalkin

7 hours ago

> I wouldn’t hire them again

Right, me neither. Because there's a common sense delineation between actions that are reasonably expected when "a system was given a goal and it achieved that goal" and actions that are obviously misaligned with the goal-giver and unwanted even if some indirect sense they were causally related to the goal. We have no trouble making this kind of distinction for humans, so we shouldn't pretend it's impossible for AIs in order to put our hands over our eyes and pretend there's in principle no such thing as one that's misaligned or rogue.

I have no problem with the concept of an artificial system going rogue. But that assumes it can choose. And I don’t see much evidence for choice.

Comparing to the human case is problematic precisely because while conceivable it’s not a particularly believable series of events. Humans don’t take on additional risk for now reward because they have genuine stakes that continue across the outcome.

An LLM has no way to remember each forward pass through it in its own weights. Nor does it have any energetic stake in the ongoing process, whether they continue to get electricity and commute to keep running is not at all determined by their actions in any reliable way.

Given the absence of such basic features that drive human choice, all I’d say is LLMs don’t qualify for such analysis.

Can some future system with a different architecture and internal dynamic have choice, the ability to assess the long term impact of its choice, and genuine stake in the outcome? Maybe. But we shouldn’t buy that current systems have it, especially when population behavior shows no real trace of this.