Comment by foltik

2 hours ago

> isn't even trying to have a conversation in good faith.

What about the sweeping halt of all legal immigrant visa processing?

Right, the point isn't that "Leave to renew" is some kind of horrible policy. Such bad-fucking-faith on display everywhere.

The point is maybe signal to people that we will soon be pausing all visa renewals so people who trivially have good jobs and good records know they ought to literally just plan on moving out of their apartment rather than have to deal with paying thousands of dollars to have someone else move their shit overseas, just to maybe get their visa renewed right when their shit arrives and they have to do the same thing all over again.

This would literally just helping law-abiding folks follow the law. But no, the cruelty is the point.

  • > the point isn't that "Leave to renew" is some kind of horrible policy

    I mean... "leave to renew" is a horrible policy, it's just one that we've normalized since 9/11. It's incredibly wasteful and disruptive, and serves no purpose. There's no legitimate reason why a long-term residential visa like an H1-B can't be renewed by mail or electronically. I can renew my driver's license by mail, and I'm a hell of a lot more likely to cause serious damage with a car than my foreign coworkers are by continuing to do their jobs well.

    The reason the State Department hides behind, by the way, is that domestic offices don't have the ability to take biometric data (fingerprints), which is self-evidently pretextual.

  • Why does "temporary" somehow mean "indefinite" to you?

    The terms were clear, visas are a privilege and not a right or automatic entitlement.

    Is it "cruel" that temporary visitors don't have the right to vote? Why is residency and permission to work somehow any different?

    • > The terms were clear, visas are a privilege and not a right or automatic entitlement.

      They are. Yet can you tell me why you would need to pause all processing in order to retrain your people? Surely they do training all the time without pausing processing.

      Your passport is a right too, you wouldn't mind if they paused that request with no indication of when they might resume? And that's including when you're abroad and lost yours. If that happens to you, you'll happily hold the same position?

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    • Do you have anything constructive to say about the merits of the leave to renew policy itself? Or the zero notice halt of visa processing?

      Or just vague gesturing about how immigrants aren’t entitled to anything? (but you presumably are!)

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