Comment by inigyou

16 hours ago

Yep I just donated $1000

Can I ask what you're hoping the organization does with that money? I'm genuinely interested in understanding what the expected outcome is.

  • Servers, connection and maintenance costs... That is what they do. Read the manifesto.

    > We react by providing a platform and tools for digital self-defense addressing the need of free communication for activists and other individuals

    Yes, they select the users. But clearly to exclude services to those they would judge as bad actors!

    • So you're in it purely for freedom of expression? I can get behind that, but after reading further it doesn't seem like they are about that at all, but rather are extremely selective and it has nothing to do with "bad acting."

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Ouch.

A good friend of mine was charged with providing material support to terrorists for providing similar donations. And all his donations were prior to the US designating the recipients as terrorists. The government's arguments were "Yes yes, but you knew what you were supporting even though we hadn't designated them as such..."

Hope you're not in the US.

  • Hope I loudly go to jail so everyone can see how corrupt things are. Hope there are street riots about it.

  • Your friend has integrity and should hold their head up high they are fighting against oppressive bullshit

    • Naive world view. They also filed other less serious charges against him (of which he may have been guilty). He intended to plead "Not guilty", but after 2.5 years of him being held before trial[1], they offered him a deal. Plead guilty and get 5 years, including time served.

      He likely would have beaten the terrorism charges, but for the lesser charges it wasn't clear that he'd get a better prison sentence than the one he was being offered.

      He took the deal and pleaded guilty.

      Also, lawyers cost money - perhaps he couldn't afford to keep fighting through a trial. I also have another friend who had the same charges leveled against him (not for donations, but volunteering services). He did fight the charges and got acquitted. I don't know if it's true, but I heard it cost him well over $1M for his legal defense.

      [1] Trials like these take a long time to prepare for, by both parties.

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    • Do you really not care to know what the terrorist organization was before you assume that "they are fighting against oppressive bullshit"? Is A/I and ISIS the same to you?