Comment by atemerev

15 hours ago

Everyone is censoring models now with anything remotely resembling cyber or bio. I already have problems with my research in mathematical epidemiology because of that - both Sol and Fable simply refuse. They keep pushing people towards Chinese models that can be decensored.

Supposedly Fable 5.1 is better, but I haven't tried it yet. I've run into the same thing with mundane work that is barely bio/cyber adjacent.

Re: Chinese models, even if the model itself isn't censored, some of the big model providers have guardrails now that you can't exceed, which somewhat defeats the purpose.

  • "Uncensored" means "weights modified to remove refusals". Abliterated. Providers do not serve such models, at least not frontier-grade. You have to run the weights yourself. For Kimi K3, this is about $60/hour for hardware rental. But you can have about 100 sessions simultaneously.

    And yes, Fable 5.1 has the same refusal rate, and significantly nerfed reasoning.