Comment by Planktonne

13 hours ago

I'm sure it's going to do great on all sorts of benchmarks, but the video--the actual marketing video that if anything is incentivised to overstate things--is full of careful cuts just before it would do anything that still wouldn't actually be that impressive.

It's AGI, and it's going to upload photos, or change a background slide colour. Even the people hyping it up, who believe that it's really artificial intelligence in every sense of the word, couldn't get it to do more than that.

This is farcical.

The games on mobile safari were broken. Buttons all misaligned in the kart racer one, the spaceship thing froze for a while, then kind of loaded but maybe not? Wasn't super compelling.

I'm not trying to be too negative on it, it could be the best model right now, but it clearly isn't some agi god because things like that should have been caught (also should have been caught by human reviewers).

  • It's interesting that you said "agi god". Because a god, something that shouldn't be questioned is true and provides guidance/certainty, is actually what powerful people are after as well as many other people.

We created AGI so I don't have to click my mouse to change the background color of my slides.

The rocket they 3D print at the end isn't even the same as the one in the game. It has a curved body, but the game asset is a cylinder.

The tone of the marketing video is a bit irritating to me as someone who has been laid off and feels cheated and fearful of AI.

It shows people who seem to have very full and rich lives, and the reason they do is because they use ChatGPT. These are the people smart enough to say things like "do what needs to be done", or "change the background to make it look better"--insights like these are why they make the big bucks.

On the one hand, I think this is an accurate depiction of the future. There is no meritocracy here. Some people have access to the best AIs and can speak a sentence and get great results, and the rest of us don't have access and so we're the poors. The happy presentation doesn't match the way I'm feeling.

I do wonder how rich CEOs will justify earning 500x as much as their employees when they're just another person that's dumber than an AI. Why are they paid so much again?

  • People spent thousands of year justifying different standards of living on the ground of "having cleverly chosen their parents".

    And everyone _got along with it_.

    And in a sense, we're still doing just that (ask the other 2/3th of the world to explain why your standards of living are above theirs.)

  • Because they earned it with their strong entrepreneurial spirit and grit.

    Haven’t you learned anything?

  • > On the one hand, I think this is an accurate depiction of the future. There is no meritocracy here. Some people have access to the best AIs and can speak a sentence and get great results, and the rest of us don't have access and so we're the poors. The happy presentation doesn't match the way I'm feeling.

    It will probably still have some veneers of meritocracy.

    These will be very well-credentialed people, who went to top schools and will know all the right people, to whom they can tell all the right words, and it's not access to AI that will be the determining factor, but the fact that they're entrusted with capital and authority to direct small teams of people who also went to top schools and can speak corporate jargon at a bot.

    It will just exacerbate dynamics that are already there. Why do people need bachelor's degrees to send emails, today? For the same reason someone will need a PhD or a master's degree from a prestigious school to do it tomorrow.

    And the rest, well, you know, some of the remaining journalists will write op-eds describing how they are beyond help, too angry, too dirty, too much of an other.

I also noticed that, and it did bug me.

The benchmarks are impressive though.

One other thing that bugged me though was that they crop every single plot in some cases the y-axis would show a range between like 40 and 70%. Makes the whole thing feel like a spectacle rather than anything serious. I find it cheapens it because it is quite serious in the end.

Can’t wait for 3 months from now when they declare they actually really do have AGI this time, please guys just believe us

The benchmarks do looks good (I mean: they literally spank the latest Anthropic benchmarks of two days ago in every single benchmark) but the promotional vid is so cheesy.

They decided to use the iconic Herman Miller Eames chair if I'm not mistaken:

https://youtu.be/s5zyhGMMPKs

And that's basically 50% of the vid looking "classy".

I don't know if it's farcical but at this point --maybe I'm jaded-- I'm expecting more than a kid rocketship I can print on my Bambu Lab A1.

Now I'd say the promotional vid is actually good. But it's marketing: so it's a good vid, but cheesy good.

Doesn't mean GPT-6 Astra is good or bad: looks solid from the numbers.