Comment by sam_lowry_

18 hours ago

>$1bn for copyright violations

3000$ per book, split 50/50 between the author and publisher.

This is peanuts.

Assuming the money reaches that far and does not settle in the hands of the country associations administering royalties on authors' behalf nor in the hands of lawyers.

> 3000$ per book, split 50/50 between the author and publisher.

> This is peanuts.

If you consider it peanuts, I would like to sell you some books.

Remember that in this case, the crime wasn't for training on the data (that part was ruled to be legal!), this was the penalty just for pirating the books.

  • I get so tired by this.

    Yes. It's not proportional to the crime. You are either deliberately or accidentally, and I'm too frustrated hearing this too often not to be biased it's the former, equating what is a large sum of money relative to your wallet and bank accounts and loan access and portfolios and whatever collection of financial impositions you can make to that of a company that has one person flying around the world influencing the future of billions of people on one planet over dinner and jokes.

    Yes. $3000 is peanuts. People that own islands would use that to pay someone's bonus for a year if they liked their service, as a gift. A throwaway.

    Fix your relative understanding of power and influence.

    • > You are either deliberately or accidentally, and I'm too frustrated hearing this too often not to be biased it's the former, equating what is a large sum of money relative to your wallet and bank accounts and loan access and portfolios and whatever collection of financial impositions you can make to that of a company that has one person flying around the world influencing the future of billions of people on one planet over dinner and jokes.

      I'm not, but you are. Especially as you continue:

      > Yes. $3000 is peanuts. People that own islands would use that to pay someone's bonus for a year if they liked their service, as a gift. A throwaway.

      The penalty (well, settlement) for the (civil offence, not crime) isn't $3000 total, it's $1.5 billion total. (Previous poster wrote ">$1bn", true but implicitly rounding down the total).

      The settlement *per book* is $3000. There were a lot of books, reportedly half a million distinct works, so the total was $1.5 billion.

      You're looking at $3000 as if it's the penalty for all of it, not the penalty per book.

      $3000 per book is entirely on-par with the per-infringement penalties when an individual does it, too.

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