Comment by ofjcihen

20 hours ago

I don’t understand how this comment is productive for any of the groups involved. Can you explain it to me?

It's a snarky way of suggesting that programmers are complaining about being treated the way professionals and tradespeople always have.

  • Yeah I get that. But having been both it doesn’t advocate for better treatment for any of them.

    Also as far as I’m aware the pay for programmers in the US has always been an isolated thing with the rest of the world ranging from normal to “literal sweatshop”.

    • What do you mean, "advocating for better treatment"? They're not describing an abuse of tradespeople and professionals. They're adults doing a job.

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It doesn't try to be productive.

It's exposing the hypocrisy of privileged groups suddenly being treated like regular people, when they did NOTHING for decades to help others or even to protect themselves ("f** you, got mine", rockstar programmer, 10x programmer, talents everywhere, etc mentality). No unions, no collective bargaining, sheer individual greed.

  • Do you think that all programmers have always existed in the US?

    On that note, do you think that all programmers in the US are these Silicon Valley stereotypes?

    Plenty of programmers in the US make normal wages for professionals with degrees doing things not at the technology companies famous for their disregard of the rest of humanity.

    As someone who has done trades and also “machine shop programming” and jail breaking rural equipment for friends to use I’m wondering why comments like this are focusing on dividing us instead of bringing us together.

    • It's a universal programmer trait. Let's call them "culturally regular programmers": they are less social than the average person. They lean more libertarian and more selfish.

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