Comment by KomoD

9 hours ago

These guys have been spamming issues in repos trying to promote this project and no disclosure whatsoever that they are associated with the project.

https://github.com/search?q=%22cloudinabottle.toml%22&type=i...

It's evidence of bad abstraction if you need everyone else to make changes and couple themselves directly to you.

If for some reason your services can't speak an already common language, I think it's on you to add those shims into your own project.

  • I don't think this approach is bad. The issues are asking if the project will accept contributions to add support, not demanding the maintainers add it.

    Let's assume that they didn't have these container restrictions and could just use an ordinary docker-compose.yml, they'd still probably want to use something like OAuth2.0 for centralised login which a lot of these services won't have.

    What would be better, making a massive PR to add support for it, or opening an issue to discuss it with the maintainer first?

(author here) I'm checking with my team to confirm these came from us, but if so I apologize for this - posts like these should come from a real account with proper disclosure, but also these sorts of requests feel premature for a project like ours that doesn't yet have a sizeable user base.

  • The user was called adl-collab, when it forked repos to add implementations it made them under a branch called "andrew".

    The biggest contributor to the project in the last 3mo is andrewlaack... and we can also just take a guess that "adl" in adl-collab is AnDrewLaak.

  • You are also characterizing another project that was open-sourced (sandstorm) and is under active development as "long abandoned". Open source is difficult and requires a fair amount of cheerleading to engage users and make them part of the community. As a result it's hard to see your project in a positive light.

  • Looking at the issues, do I understand it correctly that you have some way to install directly from repositories if they contain a `cloudinabottle.toml` file?

    If yes, regardless of who made the issues, that seems like terrible architecture/design there...

  • > posts like these should come from a real account with proper disclosure

    This line makes me think you are running a spam campaign and andrew just isn't part of it

    • If this is a spam campaign, it’s not a very effective one. I think you’d do well to apply Hanlon’s Razor here

    • I used to work for this company many years ago, and it's highly unlikely they're running a (centrally organized) spamming campaign of any type. Zack's a good guy and I'm sure he'll get it taken care of promptly.

  • Why you apologise for something which is perfectly legal. Give an inch, they'll take a mile. F the authoritarians and monopolists.

It's 11 issues total and by one person, and the project says here in the thread the issue is being addressed. Please put down the metaphorical pitchforks and torches.

shouldn't we hold back with allegations while there's a non-0 chance this is just a user wishing their other services were supported too?

  • I checked, it's an Imbue employee (or someone impersonating one, which seems a bit far fetched). I could could cite my sources but it feels like doxxing / drawing too much attention to the mistake of an individual. My read is that it was a separate github account that they let an agent control.

Tell you what though, thank you for providing such a comprehensive list of cool projects to nerdsnipe me on a sunday morning!

The person doing this doesn't understand how pull requests work. The issues all say "I have a version in my fork". Open a pull request then! That's the whole point of forks on GitHub. Creating an issue first is pointless spamming akin to the classic "asking to ask". Just seems completely out of touch with open source to me.

  • > Creating an issue first is pointless spamming akin to the classic "asking to ask"

    Many projects disagree with you on this one. It is quite common to have a policy that forbids PRs without an issue or discussion first.

It's not spam if it's the first time I heard of it and it's useful. It shows they care about their project. This makes me want to try it out even more.

Meta and Google can spam their unsolicited ads to a billion users but regular people aren't allowed to promote their own projects on niche forums? This is bs. You're the problem here. Self-promoting your harmful values. You're the spammer.