Comment by tonymet

19 hours ago

Jokes on you. Merchants prefer credit cards because there is less loss than cash. 2.5% is nothing compared to 5-10% loss at the register. Plus easier and more accurate accounting.

If you're expecting 10% loss at the register and have terrible service, that's a 1-2 punch for bankruptcy.

>5-10% loss at the register

Where did you get this number from?

  • Clankers found me one study [1] that suggests total handling costs may actually be this bad, but are highly business dependent e.g. restaurants are worse than grocery stores

    [1] https://www.ihlservices.com/product/the-cost-of-cash-handlin...

    • I'm just seeing what looks like an attempt to sell me a PDF.

      What actually is the source of such costs? The cashier still has to be paid even if the customer is using a card. Presumably there isn't anywhere near that much theft from registers, or people messing up giving change?

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    • Clank deeper, please. You gave us content marketing from the electronic payment industry:

      "Does IHL Group have any connections to merchant providers?"

      > IHL Group sells market intelligence, vendor directories, and lead generation data to the electronic payment industry.

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90% of cash I give to restaurants goes in the pocket, not the register.

Bad service = card always.

  • Are you saying servers keep 90% of what you pay? Tip and otherwise? What country? How do you know? How could a business possibly operate in this reality?

    • Not necessarily servers, just not into the register as a tracked transaction.

      Tax fraud, essentially.

      E.g. you go to the Minnesota State Fair, merchants may offer to not charge sales tax if you pay cash. It is shockingly brazen sometimes.

      > How could a business possibly operate in this reality?

      Extremely lax enforcement on the part of the specific US state's department of revenue

ACH is still the best

https://gocardless.com/

  • Great, so it is immediately deducted from my account and swiftly deposited into the recipient's account in 3-5 business days.

    • For B2B transactions that's actually decent. And any disputes can be sorted out in court.

  • While cc banks are in these times starting to side more with vendors on charge disputes, its still far more recourse than bank drafts offer you in a transactional dispute