Comment by tonyedgecombe

17 hours ago

>I doubt any phone battery is lasting 5+ years.

Just coming up to five years on mine and it is still at 87% capacity.

That is genuinely shocking to hear. You have to be like 3+ sd above the mean. Do you know how many charge cycles you have? I recall that most batteries need replacing after 300-500 cycles.

  • There's no way that's true. Otherwise everyone's phone battery would need to be completely replaced every 2 years

    Edit: I just googled it. Apple claims that the iphone 17 should handle 1000 full charge cycles before reaching 80% capacity

My iPhone 14 Pro is almost 4 years old and at 65% capacity. I don't know how everyone else is (not) using their phones.

  • I think you are the average case.

    I follow the estimate that lipos lose 2-4% capacity per year without any use beyond recharging for safety. If the battery sees daily use that number gets a lot worse.

    My guess is everyone else is the perfect mix of hardly any use and winning the battery lottery.

iPhone 11 coming up on 7 years old in December, still at ~85% capacity.

Really it mostly depends on how heavily you use it, and maybe to a lesser extent charging habits (charging slowly, not charging to 100%, etc).

  • I hear you, but the convenience of 30W charging is very hard to give up. The only downside is it damages the battery, which makes it harder to give up, which damages the battery more.

    • the convenience of the old usb charging brick that has been plugged in under my bed for 15 years is very hard to give up.

I have an iphone 13mini at 5 years and 81% capacity.