Comment by orbital-decay
4 hours ago
That's one of the reasons why you should never trust a single word from Anthropic and OpenAI (Sam Altman also blamed them back in the day of R1, in a pretty convenient moment). If you know anything about Claude, DeepSeek, jailbreaking, and distillation, you know the claims are clearly bullshit and the models are nothing alike, and forensic attempts agree, in fact there just was another one [1] [2].
Meanwhile, DeepSeek makes their models and methodology open, so Anthropic can (and likely do) grab without giving back.
[1] https://gist.github.com/wsxiaoys/e0286dc6bb624ff5fdf49e7f4c5...
[2] https://gist.github.com/wsxiaoys/102e8654c14d5d27b7b77532026...
This raise a question: why do open source models sometimes identify themself as Anthropic's models. I recall seeing some plausible theories in the past but I can't recall.
Name training is shallow and should never be relied upon. Claude sometimes identifies itself as Qwen or DeepSeek when asked in Chinese. I've seen it identify itself as GPT-3 (that version in particular) and Reddit Anti-Evil Operations team (Sonnet 3.6).
I don't see how your links support the claim that the studied models did no distillation from US models.