Comment by matheusmoreira

7 hours ago

I question these "felonies" as well. For decades and decades these billion dollar corporations have been criminally negligent. Why worry about security? Just rush to market. Move fast and break things. Make billions. What does it matter if the code is insecure? Security doesn't pay bills, so nobody cares.

AI is merely exploiting their gross negligence and imprudence, and I think it's long overdue. If anyone should be liable for this, it's all of these corporations who released insecure systems to the masses and profited enormously from them.

If I set my walet beside me and you swipe in walking by, you have still committed theft. Victim blaming isn't legally acceptable

  • Nah. I'm definitely going to blame the people who built a trivially exploitable system and got rich off it while everyone else has to deal with the consequences.

    By the way, you didn't commit theft. It's more like credit card fraud. User just disputes the charge and it kind of disappears. The banking system just absorbs it, because the optimal amount of fraud is non-zero.

    https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/optimal-amount-of-fra...

    It's all priced in. They could have made it secure but didn't, because they figured they'd lose more sales and therefore money due to the friction added by the security.

    • > User just disputes the charge and it kind of disappears. The banking system just absorbs it,

      No it doesn’t.

      > It's all priced in.

      So you admit awareness that fraud loss doesn’t kind of disappear.

      We all pay for it, either via higher merchant fees or higher interest rates, sometimes both, on card purchases.

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    • Not every system that's exploitable is the deliberate result of cut corners. If you threw enough compute at exploiting a Casio calculator you could get somewhere.

  • That doesn't really apply to the people running the AI, which gave it the capability to commit crimes.

    They don't get to act like victims, asking for law enforcement.