Comment by throwaway7783

7 hours ago

When corporations are involved, it is always a good bet to err towards cynisim.

From my own standpoint, Claude has started sucking really bad (incoherent, uncontrollable verbosity slow and so on) and I stopped using it. OpenAI started experimenting with ads.

So the security issues not withstanding (no different than a human doing it or using it, but at scale), I would put my money on cynisim.

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alexfortin  4 hours ago

I'm curious, what are the reasons to use Claude Code anymore when there are so many other (allegedly better) OpenSource harnesses out there?

Personally I've been using https://pi.dev for long and never looked back.

  • pigeons  4 hours ago

    Because you basically get a discount to use claude code via subscription when using an anthropic model, compared to what you pay via api billing with another harness

    • alexfortin  3 hours ago

      Understood.

      Personally that's actually another good reason to boycott Anthropic: beside the fact I perceive their models as (at best) marginally better than the ones I'm used to (Z.ai glm-5.3-flash, DeepSeek Flash v4.1), they even force me to use their bloated harness. They are not even open weights and iirc they're even encrypting chain of thoughts now? Litterally, from my perspective there seems to be no reason whatsoever to choose any of the leading US providers, they're not even competing on price.

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afthonos  6 hours ago

You are incorrectly cynical. They are telling you things are bad, and because you refuse to countenance they could be worse, you assume they must be better to comply with your mandate to disbelieve.

A true cynic looks at the statements by the AI labs, assumes things are worse because the labs want to seem better than they truly are. And it takes a special kind of mass delusion to drive a sane person to think “AI is completely under our control” is worse than “AI could kill everyone.”

  • chrisco255  6 hours ago

    You're asserting correctness with no facts to offer of your own, just speculation and your own biased assumptions.

    What if consolidating AI into a highly regulated cartel, with no chance of upstart competition ruining their position, is the scenario that leads to the worst possible outcome?

  • throwaway7783  6 hours ago

    The cynicism is about motivations and not that they are inherently not bad. Perhaps they are as bad as they claim. Or perhaps they're worse. All we have a couple of run of the mill breach examples and some people inside the talking about how dangerous it is. Yes, they are far more qualified than I am (or most people here), and perhaps there is a grain of truth. It is the motivation - and it is always money with corporations.

    • afthonos  4 hours ago

      It is always money — but it isn’t always only money. They are not asking for anything that will prevent them from making money in the future, but they are asking for help stopping the runaway train they’re on. These are compatible requests.

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